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Front axle rebuild

Discussion in '1973-1991 K5 Blazer | Truck | Suburban' started by MUD_SPEC, Jun 12, 2001.

  1. MUD_SPEC

    MUD_SPEC Registered Member

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    I'm needing my 8-lug 10 bolt axle rebuilt with all the seals, bearings, bushings, etc. except for R&P. My question is what am I getting myself into. Are there special tools required? Would it be worth taking it to a shop and how much is reasonable for this operation. I'm doing the 14 bolt rear now and it doesn't seem that tough.
     
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    <font color=blue>All you need is the hub socket for the wheel bearings. Its like the socket for your 14 bolt only smaller. Remove the locking hub (a pick set is helpfull for the outer ring), remove the 1st bearing nut, the lock ring, then the second bearing nut and the hub will slide off just like on the rear. Also like the rear, the grease seal holds in the inner bearing. Are you doing ball joints also?</font color=blue>

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  3. thatK30guy

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    Yeah, you need the hub socket, ball joint socket, and a torque wrench. The other tools are basic hand tools.

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  4. MUD_SPEC

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    Yeah I have to change out the tie rod, too. Do you usually do anything to the joint in the axle shaft when doing the rebuild?
     
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    That ball joint socket is a different tool than you are thinking of. It has nothing to do with the tie rods. Its a castelated socket to fit a special nut on the top part of the knuckle and it sets the camber. I have one and can get a pic of it if you dont understand what I am talking about. The one I have is from Snap-On. It has 4 prongs on it. It looks like the bigger spindle nut socket, only smaller.

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  6. MUD_SPEC

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    That's ok, I don't think I have enough tools or time to perform the rebuild. How much is a good price to have a shop do it?
     
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    Holy shinola, your looking at probalby 300+ if not more.

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  8. MUD_SPEC

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    WHOA!!!!!!! Really? Well, I'll guess I'll buy the tools and make time! Will I need a press for anything?
     
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    Wrong !
    Its a castelated socket
    to fit a special nut on the top part of the knuckle and it sets the camber.
    Wrong! wrong
    I know your tying but please stop.
    I said it before and I will keep saying it
    Upper Ball-Joint Pre-Load
    Upper Ball-Joint Pre-Load
    Upper Ball-Joint Pre-Load
    Good day
     
  10. MUD_SPEC

    MUD_SPEC Registered Member

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    OK. OK. I understand I need the castelated nut socket, but will I need a press for anything.
     
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    Geesh! Think he got the point on the first "WRONG"??? Naw... add a few more in there! [​IMG]



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    Ok, now we're on the WRONG kick [​IMG]

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    Okay, one wrong was good enough! I was in a hurry when I was typing all that. I just couldnt remember right off the top of my head what that part did.

    BTW, you never said anything before about the upper ball joint pre-load. This is the first time I have seen you say it.

    You want me to stop trying? Ok, I will just go over to a different site and stay out of your face so you can tell everybody what to do and not to do. See ya later!

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    Yeah, before that it was NOT...

    And he gets really angry if you don't have the facts straight.

    Don't think anyone wants you to leave Wes! You've been very helpful to everyone. If everyone stopped trying to help, this board would be sh*t.

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    I don't know you, but I think you have thicker skin that to leave )LOL(
    Add it takes a real man to say he is wrong ! Not many here do that !
    Sorry did not mean for you to take the wrong way !
     
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    Shawn:
    Ya I know the feeling. I try to help people and people tell me I don't know jack....I admit I don't know jack schitt....but I can try!!
    And if I don't happen to help the person that needs the help then...there might be someone else later that might need an answer and I might have an idea for em.
    I think the forums do need to go down for a few days....people need to <font color=blue>CHILL</font color=blue> out

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    Ok, here we go. The adjustment sleeve in the upper ball-joint assembly adjusts the pre-load. It does not adjust camber. The only way to adjust camber on our lovely straight axle is to use shims behind the spindle or you can purchase off-set upper ball-joints.
    And the proper upper ball joint pre-load is 20 inch pounds.
    Now back to the subject.........
    To do the front end rebuild you will need the spindle nut socket tool. You can get it at Autozone for 14.99. And you can get the Adjustment tool for the ball-joint adjustment sleeve can be bought at a comperable tools store.
    Other than that, you will not need to buy any special tools.
    In order to replace the axle seals your going to have to remove the front diff cover and to make it easier, remove the carrier. But you have to make sure you keep up with the shims and carrier bearing caps and which sides they came off of. Also while your in there you should clean out your axles tubes. So that when you go to put your axles back in you dont push all that dirt in there into the bearings as you are re-assembling the front end.
    Also you need to make sure you know the torque specs for those nuts and studs that hold your spindle to the knuckle. They WILL stretch, adn they are 5.98 each at the dealer which is the only place I have found that carriers them and even then they usually only have one in stock.
    Then make sure you know how to properly torque adn pre-load your wheel bearings.
    And last but not least...Make sure you clean the rotors off real good with brake cleaner before you put the pads on.

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    <font color=purple> Hey Executioner,

    Why don't you help give the correct info to help instead of sitting back and jumping others crap who are at least trying to help !

    Just a thought .

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    Thanks Riz!!! [​IMG]

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    <font color=purple> Anytime bro !!

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