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gear and locker ?

Discussion in 'The Garage' started by burban1500, Jan 21, 2007.

  1. burban1500

    burban1500 Registered Member

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    Hey Everyone, I recently bought a set of 1 tons for my burban for 750 bucks. These axles have 4.10 gearing but i want to go lower and have at least a detroit in the rear possibly something up front. Im looking to go 4.88 or maybe even 5.13 to run 38's and my question is where is the best place to shop for the best package deals on gears and locking devices?
     
  2. 1977k5

    1977k5 3/4 ton status Vendor

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    bigblazer87 1/2 ton status

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    What's the average cost of having an axle re-geared on a K5 10 bolt? I'd just have my rear axle filled with 5.13 gears, because I don't have enough money right now to do both. I don't want to get ripped off on labor or something...
     
  4. 1977k5

    1977k5 3/4 ton status Vendor

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    $500-600
     
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    bigblazer87 1/2 ton status

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    Sounds reasonable; I can't wait until I get my tax returns. :D
     
  6. goldwing2000

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    It's cheaper to convert to a 14bff than to re-gear a 10-bolt.
     
  7. bigblazer87

    bigblazer87 1/2 ton status

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    Not when that means a whole new set of wheels and an 8 lug conversion for the front with new hubs. This is my DD; it never goes off road (snow and dirt is about as off road as it gets), and I don't tow with it, so I don't think it's necessary for a 14 bolt right now. Plus, I'd have to re-gear the 14 bolt too, since I need to go to at least a 4.88, but I'm going to a 5.13 since I've got a 700R4 (I love OD). I'm 16, and can only do real work during the summer, so funds are very tight. I just want to restore power after putting on the 39.5" TrXus STS's. If I do swap a 14 bolt into anything, it'll be the '79 K10 I'll be building to wheel.

    Unless someone can quote me an impressive price for a 6 lug 14 bolt conversion (and not with lug pattern adapters), the 10 bolt stays for now.
     
  8. goldwing2000

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    You can get a semi-floater with 6-lug axles.

    Putting 39s on a 10-bolt is just asking for trouble.

    But whatever floats your boat.
     
  9. bigblazer87

    bigblazer87 1/2 ton status

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    Yeah, I've thought about a 14 bolt SF, but those take a bit of work to fit in there, don't they? Don't the spring perches have to be moved to fit in a K5? And aren't there some issues with the braking system? If a SF is as easy as a 3/4 ton FF swap, or close to it, I don't mind doing it if I can find a SF for a good price in good condition.

    I don't think my tires will break my axles with flat-land street driving, will they? If someone has personal experience with their 10 bolts breaking from a 38"-39.5" tire driven solely on the street (never taken off road), than I will change my mindset, but for now I've got some faith in my 1/2 tons.
     
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    So you think it will cost more than $600 to swap the front to 8 lug and get rims for 8 lug?:rolleyes:

    It is your rig do it how you want but I gaurantee you will spend more money keeping that 10 bolt in the rear. With 5.13s and 39s I will garuantee you will break it with just street driving. You are young and I am sure you will go to show off and POW there goes your rear axle.

    Ira
     
  11. bigblazer87

    bigblazer87 1/2 ton status

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    I know that a 14BFF and 8 lug front can be done for $300, but the 14 bolt would still have to be re-geared, plus I like my rims to be shiny; not black steelies or anything. So in the end, it would cost around $1200 to do the 14BFF with 5.13 gears, 8 lug front, new polished 15x10's, and a mount and balance.

    And I'm not going to go to try to do a burnout or squeal my tires to show off; I've got more sense than that. I'm a very conservative driver when I'm in my truck; I know my axles are weak, so I don't over-accelerate, I just get it rolling then start to get on the throttle. I dunno, maybe I'll just suffer through the 3.08's for now until summer when I can work full-time, then I'll try to do a 14BSF swap with 5.13 gears.
     
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    I broke ny 10blt axles with bald 35's on the street......
    i picked up a 14bff for 200
     
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    Hmmm... that's promising.

    How would 4.10 gears do with my 39.5's? I found this in my area: http://sacramento.craigslist.org/pts/265615460.html

    If I pick that up for $200-$250, I can still do an 8 lug on the front and buy new 15x10 Eagle 589's for the same price as re-gearing my rear axle. Quick question though: would I be able to leave my hubs on that I currently have on my 10 bolt with the 8 lug swap? I can't be spending unnecessary money...
     
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    You can reuse your hubs
     
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    10 bolts are fine with 39 if your on the street and drive like a granny. Here's pro-of having 10 bolts they save weight and the same ground clearance with 35 as 1 tons with 38-39 dont have to run a risky 16.5 rim to clear dana 60 calipers. Brakes, shafts, ring gears are cheaper. Cons-no bigger than 37's in rock, fine in mud. NO BRAGING RIGHTS.It mainly dependes on how you build your axles and what you do with then.
     
  16. bigblazer87

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    Thanks.

    I think I'll just stay on the lookout for a 6 lug 14 bolt SF, pick it up, then rebuild it and stuff it with 5.13 gears this summer. After doing some researching, the 8 lug swap seems a bit too much for me, considering I just finished building my Blazer 3 months ago. I'll do the 3/4 ton swap on my '79 K10 so that it can handle a little abuse off road on 35's. Thanks for the help everyone, and sorry for straying a little, Mr. Topic Creator. :D
     
  17. burban1500

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    so anyways where did all u 1 ton guys get your gears and lockers from im lookin for the best deal of course tight budget blah blah blah
     
  18. goldwing2000

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    I got my Detroit from Randy's Off Road. Best price I could find unless you can manage to find a decent deal on eBay (not likely).
     
  19. sandawgk5

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    Uh I run 15s on my 60 no 16.5s for me:D. If I did run 16.5s they would Hummers so no beads getting lost on my watch either. Oh I would look at Randy's Ring and Pinion or PORC for gears and lockers.

    Ira
     

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