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Got a Toyota brake question. *Found article. Please read/give input.*

Discussion in 'The Garage' started by BigOrange90Jimmy, Jan 8, 2003.

  1. BigOrange90Jimmy

    BigOrange90Jimmy 1/2 ton status Premium Member

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    I know you guys are going to kick me in the head for asking about a Toyota, but I need some answers on this subject. I've got the 85 Toy with the stock brake and clutch components. Will the stock brake booster be enough for a D60/14b and something like 38's? If it's not, where do you think I could get an upgrade for this? Also, I was going to use the stock Toyota clutch MC on a hydro 465. Think it will get the job done?
     
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    Re: Got a Toyota clutch and brake question for ya. *LET THE FLAMING BEGIN!*

    I doubt the toyota brakes would work. The piston would not have enough volume to get the job done. Hydro clutch would be worth a try though.
     
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    Re: Got a Toyota clutch and brake question for ya. *LET THE FLAMING BEGIN!*

    Wow, a response! /forums/images/graemlins/eek.gif I figured this post would have just fallen to the bottom with no reply. Thanks jeffro.
     
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    Re: Got a Toyota clutch and brake question for ya. *LET THE FLAMING BEGIN!*

    I take it your doing this on a Pickup right?. For the Booster I would go for a Landcruiser FJ-40 for the whole thing, At lest for the M/C it has a bigger bore than the PU.
    And if a FJ-40 clutch deal is bigger I would use that as well.

    I once had a FJ-40 with a FI sb400 with a SM420 bolted to a three speed T-Case. The Hydro clutch that the FJ-40 had did just fine for me. I don't see why it would not work with your set up.
    Next the Cruiser also had 4 wheel disk's I put a Booster from a Celica I tried a MC from a PU but it didn't work right for me the Bore is like 5/8 or something a FJ-40 is like 7/8 or bigger.All that stuff should bolt right up. you could look at a FJ-60/62 the four door wagon.

    Eric
     
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    Re: Got a Toyota clutch and brake question for ya. *LET THE FLAMING BEGIN!*

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    I take it your doing this on a Pickup right?

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    Yep.
    Would a FJ60's junk be better than the 40's? Just curious because the 60 is bigger.
    Thanks for the help!
     
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    Re: Got a Toyota clutch and brake question for ya. *LET THE FLAMING BEGIN!*

    I would think the hydraulic clutch set up would work fine with the Chevy stuff.

    For the brakes, I don't know who makes it but I've seen a hydraboost kit offered for Jeeps. I think I've seen the adds in 4 Wheel Drive &amp; Sport Utility magazine. I can't see any reason it wouldn't work on a Toyota.

    BTW - I work in a Toyota dealer parts dept on Saturdays, let me know if you need any help. /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif
     
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    Re: Got a Toyota clutch and brake question for ya. *LET THE FLAMING BEGIN!*

    The 60's could be bigger, But I'll bet their real close to being the same, But I would check it out just to make sure. I tried to get ahold of a buddy and he wasn't home.

    Eric
     
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    Re: Got a Toyota clutch and brake question for ya. *LET THE FLAMING BEGIN!*

    Oh, when I said the part about the FJ60's being bigger, I was referring to the body. I have no idea if anything dealing with the brakes are bigger or not.
     
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    Re: Got a Toyota clutch and brake question for ya. *LET THE FLAMING BEGIN!*

    Well, I do need some parts for the sunroof in it. It's an 85 regular cab pickup. I need one of the pins on the handle/lock thingy.
     
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    Re: Got a Toyota clutch and brake question for ya. *LET THE FLAMING BEGIN!*

    It's no biggie
    But I would look into using those parts.

    Eric
     
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    Re: Got a Toyota clutch and brake question for ya. *LET THE FLAMING BEGIN!*

    Your really need to know what the total ratio of the system is. By that I mean the ratio of the m/c piston area to the piston area of the calipers all multiplied by the pedal ratio. Yea, I know, math stuff.....

    I suspect that the above poster is correct in stating the p/u m/c is too small, but we really don't know. The stock Yota calipers have a fairly large piston area, larger than you'd think. To 7/88 they had a 13/16" bore m/c, 8/88 to '95 they used a 15/16" bore m/c. FJ's used a 7/8" bore m/c from 8/80 to 12/89 and a 1" after that. Taco's to 98 used a 1" bore, T-100's used a 1" or a 1-1/16" bore.

    Use too small of a m/c and you won't need the booster (A good thing IMHO), but you'll have excessive pedal travel. Use too large of a m/c bore and you'll have this nice rock hard pedal that won't stop you worth a damn.
    Doubter's should see my profile as this is my field of employment. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
     
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    Re: Got a Toyota clutch and brake question for ya. *LET THE FLAMING BEGIN!*

    A good toyota site is allpro offroad
     
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    Re: Got a Toyota clutch and brake question for ya. *LET THE FLAMING BEGIN!*

    Here we go. I've got some info to go on. I can't find this stuff anywhere and I really don't know where to look either. So where would I get a setup that doesn't use a booster. I was talking to a local 4x4 shop owner yesterday and he said that would probably be better, but he didn't know quite enough about it to tell me where to look. Now the math crap, I can go ahead and hang that up. I'm terrible in math. Also, I wouldn't know how to figure up the ratio anyway. PM me a way I can get up with you so if I have any questions I can pick up the phone and annoy ya. /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif
     
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    Re: Got a Toyota clutch and brake question for ya. *LET THE FLAMING BEGIN!*

    Yeah that is a pretty good site. I was thinking of getting the flat bed kit from them, but there's just something about it that doesn't look right, and I can't place it. I was thinking of checking out their York compressor brackets though.
     
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    Re: Got a Toyota clutch and brake question for ya. *LET THE FLAMING BEGIN!*

    Here's what I found. It's an article from Off-Road.com

    Brake Upgrade
     
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    Re: Got a Toyota clutch and brake question for ya. *LET THE FLAMING BEGIN!*

    rockstomper has an adapter so that you can use a chevy MC
    Go to the toy forum on pirate4x4.com for answers to all your questions.
     

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