A guy stopped by and asked me if I wanted a grill guard for free for my K5 on Saturday. So of course I said yes. He brings it by an hour later or so and this thing is built. It has 3/8" thick side plates and wraps under my bumper and bolts to the frame. Now here's my question: I am thinking about just removing my bumper all together and bolting on this grill guard. Then this winter get some tubing and weld it to the guard to make a full bumper out of it. What kind of tubing would you recommend? I haven't decided yet if I want to go with 2 smaller tubes on each side or one larger tube on each side yet. I might have an opportunity to get some thick piping from work that was on our old fuel system. I do a little bit of everything with my K5. rocks, mud whatever. Would regular pipe hold up as well as some good tubing bouncing off of a rock? The pipe is anywhere from 1/8" to a 1/4" thick. I haven't seen the inside of it yet, but it's good old fashioned pipe that's about 40 years old. It's not this newer plumbing pipe you get these days. Also, I plan on getting some steel plating and welding it to the inside of the grill guard for a winch mount. Would 1/8" be thick enough or should I go with 1/4" thick. If I do the winch mount, I plan on making some brackets that will go back to the inside of the frame to help hold everything in place. This won't be done in the near future, but I hope to have it all done by our first run next spring. Thanks in advance, Rick P.S. I'll get a pic of it in the next couple of days.