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Got the MOO cross member and Avalanche histeer arms installed.

Discussion in '1973-1991 K5 Blazer | Truck | Suburban' started by CK5, Feb 19, 2002.

  1. CK5

    CK5 In my underwear Administrator Premium Member GMOTM Winner Author

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    I got the Avalanche hi-steer setup installed but it doesn't look like there is room to mount a ram at all, I am going to show it to Cliffton to see if he has any ideas but I might have to move the tierod back down to stock location so I can mount the ram.

    http://coloradok5.com/temp/histeer2.jpg
    http://coloradok5.com/temp/histeer4.jpg
    http://coloradok5.com/temp/histeer6.jpg

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    mudhog THEGAME Staff Member Super Moderator

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    damn that looks good so how well does it perform?

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    The Avalanch units have multiple mounting points to change the ratio/leverage of steering and to give you as many options as possible in arranging the links and combining various steering components.

    Russ

    85 K30 CUCV, 350 TBI, TH400, 205, D60/C14, 4.56 Locked, 4" lift, 42" tires
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    CK5 In my underwear Administrator Premium Member GMOTM Winner Author

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    All the holes are for adjustment, I really like the ability to move stuff around for the best location and they come that way. The bumpstops I ordered from ORD, they are 41/2" poly. I just finished the setup yesterday so no real world testing yet, like I said I might have to move the tierod back down so I can mount my ram.

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    I still say you should have left the crossmember yellow. It would have shown up better and everyone knows yellow and red are fashionable.

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    I'm not sure on the yellow and the red but the MOO crossmember is what allowed me to run a straight drag link, here is a pic of the new crossmember soon to be covered in oil from my leaky ass motor.
    <a target="_blank" href=http://coloradok5.com/temp/moocrossmember.jpg>http://coloradok5.com/temp/moocrossmember.jpg</a>

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    Man, the tie rod looks close to that x-member in pic1. Would you lose turning radius if you moved each out 1 hole? That would give you more leverage for steering but might (probably) hit the limit of the steering box.

    On the ram, I've seen setups mounted off the rock rings like your rear truss is mounted. Will that not work for you? I'm very interested in your results since the x-over/hi-steer/ram is next on my list after I get my lift and axle relocation worked out. I've been collecting photo ideas everywhere I find them (here, PBB, etc.) to use in figuring out my setup. My plans are to use the Avalanche arms and with the axle moving forward I hope it will keep the links out of the factory x-member. Probably not but, I can dream. Maybe put the tie rod out front with the x-over link located at the factory radius? Otherwise, I'll put in a hand built (or MOO) replacement. Add West Texas into the mix and the steering should be good to go.

    Anyway, good luck.

    Russ

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    Man, that looks really good! Good job man.

    As for mounting the Ram, fab work will definately have to be in the works. The only way I see possible is, if you want to mount it to the tierod, is to weld in a bracket on the axle tube (right next to the housing on the long tube side) and the bracket has to be at the height of the tierod, and then weld the tabs on the tierod and put the Ram between that. Make sure you gusset the bracket really well, don't want it to bend off or anything from all that leverage. I'd say, do that, so you can keep the rod up high and the Ram up high, since I think that's what you're after.
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    Man, where to start, It will not work mounted to the rockring as the tierod moves over it at full lock, I already moved the draglink out one hole so I could move the tierod out one hole to keep it out of the crossmember, remember that as the springs compresses it moves rearward. If you move the axle forward then you run into clearance problems with the pitman arm, although you could move the steering box forward etc.. the tierod will not work in the forward position because when the pitman arm turns it will contact the tierod bad. There is just not much room at all up there and forget about doing anything with the stock crossmember at all it's just to big and far forward.

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    The only room would be to mount the ram UNDER the tierod on the long side with a bracket off the axle tube, I am going to visit Cliffton from Avalanche to see if that would work or if he has any other ideas. There is no room behind the tierod to mount anything.

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    Steve,

    I was going to suggest that.... right where the old steering shock used to mount to... under the spring on the driver's side. I have the high-steer, and although I only have a shock mounted there now, if I add hyd assist, that's where I'll put it.

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    Marv, do you have a pic of your setup?

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    Steve,

    You can see it in this recent pic... The shock is black and mounts from the already existing bracket on the axle to the driver's side knuckle where the tie rod used to mount.

    I thought I would be placing this shock in harm's way, but suprisingly... I have yet to hit it!

    One thing cool about mounting a hyd assist there would be that the hydraulic loads would not go thru the tierod and ends.

    Marv

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    that looks to be the only solution.
    kinda defeats the whole high steer idea though doesnt it?
    custom arm with hydraulics mounted to the rear?

    formerly 77chev
    still a jerk though
     
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    Actually, what I was talking about would put the axle mount off the angled section of the rock ring toward the drivers side. Similar to the (4" or so) arm mounting points I've seen coming off the axle tube, but further to the passenger side which would be better I think. That way, the tie rod clears over the cylinder just like it clears of the rock-ring/diff housing, and the cylinder is still pretty much in line with the drag link. You would just need to build a -|_ (roughly but flipped over) shaped bracket to hang under the drag link so that the pivot would work in the correct plane. On the rock ring, you would need a tab sticking out toward the drivers knuckle, off the angled section on the top right, and a tab sticking straight out to the front, parallel to the axle tubes for the other end. This assumes your using the cylinder from West Texas with the clevis (is that the right word?) style ends which fit over the single 3/8" (?roughly?) tabs. Does that make sense?

    Russ

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    I talked to the guys at Avalanche and they think that it can be mounted just under the tierod, which is what I was thinking, I may just do that.

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    titanic has/had the hysteer hydro-assist steering on a D-60. pics...http://coloradok5.com/moneypit.shtml
    trail shots: <a target="_blank" href=http://community.webshots.com/user/mtpockets35>http://community.webshots.com/user/mtpockets35</a>
     
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    CK5 In my underwear Administrator Premium Member GMOTM Winner Author

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    Yeah, that's how I think I need to mount it.

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