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Guess what I'm doing this weekend? Advice?

Discussion in 'The Garage' started by W7NB, Feb 22, 2007.

  1. W7NB

    W7NB 1/2 ton status

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    So for all you lift kit gurus, my question is do I go ahead and install the one inch zero rates I have on the back to save the time later, or will it take some time to sag on me? New Rough Country springs and from the comments I have seen it seems like most rear lift springs will sag over a short period of time.

    Just figured I could save some effort later...

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  2. BigEasy

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    With the weight of the winch & front bumper, it might end up sagging the same amount front & rear. I say leave them out. It's a snap to install them later on if it becomes necessary. I'm suprised you chose to go with the replacement rear springs instead of a flip kit. Were your old rear springs sagging real bad?
     
  3. W7NB

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    Even with the zero rates they were lower then the front springs, but someone installed 3 leaf springs up front at some point. I just figured 17 year old springs with 200K plus miles had to go, so I went new all the way around.

    Now that you mention it, I may have about equal sink with the extra weight up front.
     
  4. GEORGIA GABE

    GEORGIA GABE 1/2 ton status

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    my advice... send the rear springs back and do a shackle flip rear... but thats just if you want it to flex.
    gabe
     
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    Wow, now that's some serious sag! :D
     
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    I have lift springs in the rear of mine and it flexes pretty damn good (at least as well as the guys I have run with that have shackle flips). It will do almost 900 on a 23 deg. RTI ramp, pretty damn good for a bolt on lift kit. Its a BDS lift, BTW.
     
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    I would be very happy to anywhere close. By the end of the weekend I'll have lockers in both ends plus the new springs - let the carnage begin!

    I thought about the shackle flip, but would have needed new springs either way. I might do the flip later when I go 1 ton gear and bigger tires.
     
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    Here's one tip: Install the raised steering arm onto your new axle BEFORE you bolt the axle in. It's alot easier when you have room to really swing a hammer. I also got a roll of rubber hose and ran my axle breathers up into the engine compartment and mounted the ends at the top of the firewall when I did my axle swap. I still need to get some more hose and extend the tranny & t-case breathers though.
     
  9. GEORGIA GABE

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    longer brake hoses, you can find part numbers in the part numbers thread..
    good luck with it and be careful... and dont forget the BFH
    GABE
     
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    This is why I love CK5! I'll stop at the parts store and get new bolts for the steering arm, a roll of hose for the breathers - I might run the rear axle breather through the floor and into the passenger compartment. That way I will KNOW if it got water in it:haha:

    Gabe, ok on the BFH, but on the break lines, I have the drop down brackets - do you think the break lines will still be needed on a 4" lift?
     
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    The drop down brackets for the brakes are a little cheesy. They'll get you by for now but it would probably be a good idea to replace those 17 year old lines at some point in time. I wouldn't cut a hole in the floor, just run the breather hoses to the top of the firewall like I did. It's extremely easy and you'll hydrolock your engine before you'll suck water into the diffs. The steering arm uses studs & nuts, not bolts. Your kit should've came with 3 self locking nuts for bolting the new arm on. It's mostly straight forward but there's a few tips & tricks to installing a lift. Have you ever done one before?
     
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    On an IFS Chevy years ago, but it was pretty much bolt on stuff and go. I've helped other guys with lifts but have pretty much just been muscle and wrench turner.
     
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    I didnt use them at first and it was fine until the brake hose becomes the limiting strap when flexing...

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    So did you get er done?
     
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    Waiting for replacement's for wrong bushings, plus decided to replace teh drag arms. Picks in my build thread later this week.
     
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    I dont think you have to worry about sag on a rough country lift. Spring rates are high. And they have an overload springs
    As said. Get new longer brake hoses.
    I have a rough Country 4" lift runing it hard, towing, and beating on it for a few years now and I still do not have saggy butt. It has settled a little bit but still level.
     
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    I ordered the new brake lines yesterday. I just wish I had seen Georgia Gabes post before I ordered them. I would have gone to Nappa for them instead of RC.

    Glad to hear no sagging. I will be pulling a 4500lb boat so medium stiff won't be too bad.
     
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    I recant my earlier statement, If you will be pulling a boat then you deffinatly do not want to do a shackle flip. The lift springs would be the way to go.
    gabe
     

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