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Half-way to 8-Lug......

Discussion in '1969-1972 K5 Blazer | Truck | Suburban' started by Greg72, Jun 16, 2002.

  1. Greg72

    Greg72 "Might As Well..." Staff Member Super Moderator

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    Just to let you guys know, the 14BFF install is almost done!

    I have had this axle sitting in my garage for probably 6 months and I'm now getting around to putting it together and underneath the K5. Here's what I've done so far:

    1. Cut off old spring pads and shock mounts
    2. Shave pumpkin for extra clearance
    3. Remove 13" Drum brakes (saves a TON of weight!)
    4. Install all new bearings and seals in hubs
    5. Remove spider gears and install Detroit Locker instead
    6. Fab up new 2" offset spring perches
    7. Weld in perches at 40" width and with correct pinion rotation
    8. Install Derbinator disk brake brackets and new D44 calipers


    Left to do:

    1. Re-install axles w/ new axle seals
    2. Get new crush sleeve and parts to set proper pinion preload
    3. Figure out rear shock setup and weld on mounts
    4. Remove entire axle (one MORE time) to paint it
    5. Re-Install axle
    6. Have a 1-Ton CV style driveshaft built and install it.
    7. Figure out a brakline setup to allow the D44 calipers to hook up.


    That's about all for now. I've taken a few pictures, and Scott (4x4High) has been helping me a LOT with his expertise about how some of these parts go together. Hopefully I can post the pics so you can see how COOL a 1st Gen looks with 8-Lug wheels bolted underneath!!! /forums/images/icons/cool.gif
     
  2. ntaj*ep

    ntaj*ep 1/2 ton status

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    Right on! I've had an Eaton rear end sitting in my...er outside of my garage for about 6 months. I'm just getting lots of insperation from everywhere! Lets see! Lets see! I wanna see pictures. 8 lug bad a$$! That could be dangerous. HHHMMM stronger axles, oooooohhhhh 38" boggers....droool! LOL
     
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    i just got my 38's and they are 16.5 they have 8 lug wheels i am trying to decide wheter to go 6 or 8 ( i already have 2 8 lug rearends in my backyard) <font color="blue"> </font color>
     
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    chulisohombre 1/2 ton status

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    hey blazerboy,what kind of rears do you have?do you want to sell one?i already grenaded one 12 bolt and im well on my way to doing it to a second.need something stronger. /forums/images/icons/laugh.gif
     
  5. Greg72

    Greg72 "Might As Well..." Staff Member Super Moderator

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    Sounds like you've got excess parts like me......!!! /forums/images/icons/grin.gif

    I've got a 12 bolt, two 14 bolts, two D44s and a D60....

    I can't build a second K5 with spares yet, but if I don't stop buying extra junk I probably could....!!!
     
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    Bill4rest 1/2 ton status

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    Hey I'm upgrading my Samurai to Toyota axles.... you can have my stock samy's to put under there /forums/images/icons/grin.gif
     
  7. 70~K5

    70~K5 1/2 ton status

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    Greg just let me get that D60 out of your way. I'll be over in 15 to pick it up. /forums/images/icons/wink.gif /forums/images/icons/smile.gif /forums/images/icons/laugh.gif /forums/images/icons/tongue.gif /forums/images/icons/cool.gif /forums/images/icons/shocked.gif /forums/images/icons/smirk.gif /forums/images/icons/grin.gif /forums/images/icons/ooo.gif /forums/images/icons/confused.gif
     
  8. chulisohombre

    chulisohombre 1/2 ton status

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    somehow i just dont think that would work for me.lolwhat does the samurai weigh.probably around 2500 pounds.good small trail rig though.almost like riding a four wheeler huh?ive never been inside one.
     
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    greg72!!would you want to sell one of the 14 bolts?what would you want for one if you do?shipping would probably be huge.maybe truck freight not so bad.i'll just get it delivered to my warehouse.lol
     
  10. Greg72

    Greg72 "Might As Well..." Staff Member Super Moderator

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    Chuliso,

    Yep probably insane.....14 Bolts aren't THAT hard to find that it would be worth shipping across the country!

    There's got to be a local source where you can find one......

    Good luck dude! /forums/images/icons/smile.gif
     
  11. chulisohombre

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    im on my way to the junkyard this weekend to try to dig up one.how much is a good price for a 14 bolt ff?
     
  12. Greg72

    Greg72 "Might As Well..." Staff Member Super Moderator

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    Anything $150 or less is probably considered a good price.... up to $300 or so might be considered average.

    if you can find the gear ratio you actually NEED, that's obviously worth more, and if you are planning to install a Detroit Locker....be sure to get an open carrier....no Gov-Loc differentials....you can't use those for a Detroit.

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    is there any markings on the gears to tell the ratio?i need 4.11 gears
     
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    Greg72 "Might As Well..." Staff Member Super Moderator

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    The ring gear will tell you everything!

    There is are stampings that will tell you the number of ring gear teeth, and pinion teeth (and with those you can calculate the ratio) and also the datecode when the gears were made (and therefore the year that the axle was probably built)

    The archives should have more detail on reading those codes... I don't have them memorized (YET) /forums/images/icons/smile.gif
     
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    Greg, you gonna make it to Blazer-Fest? Sounds like a lot of work left for such a short time...
     
  16. Greg72

    Greg72 "Might As Well..." Staff Member Super Moderator

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    I'll be there.....even if I have to drive a Neon! /forums/images/icons/grin.gif

    Seriously though, the driveshaft is being built as we speak by High Angle Driveline, and the rest of the stuff I'm just chipping away at each night after work.....

    There is still time.
     
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    Hey Greg if you need an extra hand I am free this whole weekend. Let me know. /forums/images/icons/laugh.gif
     
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    i did some some junkyard ravaging today.found whT I wass looking for.finally have 14bff,just need 3/4 hubs for the d44 and spindles and wheels and tires and.......well maybe i'll have it in by winter.thanx for the help.ithink it may haver a govlok.is that a bad thing. i seen someone grenaded one witha govlok in theres.does that kind of carrier have stregth issues?
     
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    The reason that the gov-lock is not as good as a pick for a axle swap as a open diff is becuse they don't make a detroit for it. I do think they make a lock-right for it.
     
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    Greg72 "Might As Well..." Staff Member Super Moderator

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    The Gov-Loc is not as bad on the 14BFFs as it was on the earlier 12-Bolts or maybe on the later 10-Bolt rears.

    Most of the horror stories are about those Gov-Locs, and not about the 14BFF style. If that's all you can find, and you are planning on going to 4.56 gears or deeper anyway don't sweat it. If you have to buy a new carrier to use a standard Detroit Locker....I think it's around $150. So even starting with a Gov-Loc you can still get where you want to be....it just might cost a few extra $$$

    Hope that helps. /forums/images/icons/smile.gif
     

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