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Discussion in 'The Lounge' started by firefighter184, Aug 31, 2004.

  1. firefighter184

    firefighter184 1/2 ton status

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    Has anybody gotten a nasty PM from a frequent lounge political poster, leaning slightly to left of far left? Just wondering, because I did. You know who you are dude, quit yer bellyachin and man up. /forums/images/graemlins/angryfire.gif
     
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    I know that one other person did, I forget who at the moment... /forums/images/graemlins/1zhelp.gif
     
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    Did he type anything in his own words or was it more links to something other have said?? /forums/images/graemlins/ignore.gif /forums/images/graemlins/histerical.gif /forums/images/graemlins/histerical.gif /forums/images/graemlins/histerical.gif /forums/images/graemlins/rotfl.gif

    Maybe kerry can try again in 4 years
     
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    Did Hillary send you another PM??


    Or are you gonna make us guess who it is? /forums/images/graemlins/whistling.gif /forums/images/graemlins/whistling.gif /forums/images/graemlins/whistling.gif /forums/images/graemlins/whistling.gif



    I've gotten a few nasty PM's from folks regarding different threads here and I guess if it makes them feel better I would rather have them cuss and swear in a PM rather than post it ... this being a family site and all.


    Of course it's much more entertaining to have a heated discussion in a public forum but some folks just aren't capable of presenting their point-of-view when it's based on regurgitated tripe from the DNC. /forums/images/graemlins/doah.gif
     
  5. Corey 78K5

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    Sounds to Me like some newbie trying to make a name for his self, and going about it the wrong way. /forums/images/graemlins/whistling.gif /forums/images/graemlins/whistling.gif
     
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    [ QUOTE ]
    Has anybody gotten a nasty PM from a frequent lounge political poster, leaning slightly to left of far left?

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    Fortunately, no. Then again, would you waste your time? /forums/images/graemlins/weld.gif /forums/images/graemlins/histerical.gif /forums/images/graemlins/histerical.gif

    John
     
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    which side is left? /forums/images/graemlins/whistling.gif
     
  8. firefighter184

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    I wish he would have posted his smack-talk in a forum so that everybody here could witness his idiocy. It was also a personal attack on me. At least he could have posted his babble in a thread so that I could destroy him with an audience (verbal annihilation is only truly fun with others watching!). I have decided to post his PM in full here, minus his true identity to protect his privacy (hence the term PRIVATE MESSAGE). Here it is:

    John,

    Neither of us has to agree with each others beliefs politically. In fact I prefer to agree to disagree.

    I do not however care for your name calling, anger and negative tone. I would only hope that not all of the Firefighters from where you work project this image, nor do I believe that your Fire Chief would condone such behavior. In my opinion, this is a disgrace to the “Fire Service Profession”. If you stop and think for a moment; do you really believe that this type of behavior is conducive to the Fire Service? In my opinion, it is not conducive to “any” profession.

    As a Professional Firefighter I take my job as such. I consider myself a “role model” and handle myself accordingly. I have contact with numerous people on a day to day basis both on and off duty; however I always try to project a positive image.

    Neither you nor the guys on K5 have to agree with my beliefs nor do I want you to. You all have a right to your opinions and I can appreciate that. Could you imaging how boring and dysfunctional this world would be if we were all the same? What I don’t care to see is all the anger, uncontrolled emotions and personal attacks.

    I don’t mind if you choose to exhibit this behavior, however please do the profession a favor and remove your “firefighter184” tag. I cannot stand to see someone advertise themselves as a “Firefighter” with such disrespect.

    It is obvious that our political views are not the same, and that is ok. Whether we agree or not, I do believe that you have seen me conducted myself in a professional manor on this site. I am far from perfect I know; I practice every passing day to become even a better person than I was the day before.

    You may laugh at all this; however you will be hard-pressed to criticize my demeanor. My political views/opinions on the other hand are debatable.

    End Quote

    What, now being a vocal Conservative is reason to stop being a fireman? My Chief is a conservative! Wanna know how conservative I am, and how I support my convictions at the firehouse? This weekend, the Democrap candidate for Congress, Dave Thomas, came by and asked if he could get some pictures with firemen for his campaign. As the ranking officer, I told the crew that they could do so if they wished, making sure that Thomas understood that the Fire District will not endorse any political candidate or cause, according to state and federal laws. I personally told Mr. Thomas that I am a conservative Republican, and could not possibly risk being seen in a campaign ad for a Democrap. I thanked him for his taking part in the political process, and for making the choice to assume a leadership role in our government, but politely told him he chose the wrong party.

    As far "bringing disrespect" to the fire profession, try this one on for size: Union firemen can and do go on strike, leaving their customers screwed. Hows that for crappy.

    I'll end this rant with a quick taste of my true smacktaking prowess, and "Mr. PM" can read it and go talk to one of his many whiny liberal friends about how awful we are and, maybe, sing kumbayah while shopping for electric cars.

    You know who you are. Your puny mind has been ravaged by the seductive voice of the left, and it shows. While you and your treasonous friends plot for the UN takeover, my friends plot the destruction of our enemies. While you plan social programs and immigration amnesty, my friends plan the War on ANY WHO WOULD OR COULD DO US HARM.

    While you are entitled to your opinions, you would do well to remember that for evry action, there is a reaction. You post here, knowing that we are, generally, a pretty conservative bunch, yet are angered and hurt by our replies. There are a few guys around here who think much like you do when it comes to politics, yet none of them sends me PM's like yours. The debate over right and left will never die, and always be a source of frustration for those on both sides, but for whatever reason, we choose to self-flagellate in the political forums. Man up, thicken your skin, and enjoy the argument. OR, shut your cakehole and surf the web for something more in tune with your sensitivities.

    Oh, yeah, one more thing:

    Bush-Cheney in 2004, Beeeeeeeeeeeeyotch.
     
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    Has anybody gotten a nasty PM from a frequent lounge political poster, leaning slightly to left of far left? Just wondering, because I did. You know who you are dude, quit yer bellyachin and man up. /forums/images/graemlins/angryfire.gif

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    I don't get any PM's, nasty or nice...not even from Backcountry /forums/images/graemlins/ignore.gif
     
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    Wow, that's deep! /forums/images/graemlins/eek.gif
     
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    [ QUOTE ]
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    Wow, that's deep! /forums/images/graemlins/eek.gif

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    Ya, I would be mad too...
     
  12. txfiremank5

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    I didn't do it... /forums/images/graemlins/rotfl.gif

    My favorite part:
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    I would only hope that not all of the Firefighters from where you work project this image, nor do I believe that your Fire Chief would condone such behavior.

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    That's so damn typical.... it seems to be the automated response. If I had a dollar for every time I heard/read that dribble I'd be rich...

    No, the other firefighters at my station are not like me... they're worse... LOL /forums/images/graemlins/histerical.gif
     
  13. firefighter184

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    Firemen aren't supposed to have opinions, I guess. I am probably the most vocal conservative on my department, but like yours, there are a few guys on mine that make me look like Ted Kennedy. Heh heh. Either way, I gotta say, it's fun being me!
     
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    yeah, i fail to see how being a vocal conservative brings any kind of negative vibes towards the profession of firefighting. Last time I checked, firemen are americans too. They have the freedom of speech just like anyone else. You may not like it, you may think "firefighters shouldn't think that way" but its not your place to decide that. Frankly, I wouldn't care if a firefighter pulling me out of a burning building was a satanic communist... so long as he does his job and doesn't break any laws, its all good IMO.

    j
     
  15. Shaggy

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    Dude, if you don't agree with liberals then you aren't entitled freedom of speech. Didn't you know that? /forums/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif
     
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    Apparently you did not read your firefighter's oath.


    "I hereby swear that in addition to putting out fires and saving lives I will toe the Democratic party line and bend over and take it in the rear for the Unions. I furthermore will no longer believe in personal responsibility, freedom of opinion, family values, God (in any way shape or form), uniform achievement expectations, winners, losers; or anything else that could possibly hurt someone's feelings or make them feel inadequate. Should my actual opinions differ from these I will STFU because I am a backwards thinking barbaric conservative boob (ooh, and probably a racist too!), and only liberals have the right to express their opinions."

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  17. Bubba Ray Boudreaux

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    I guess he would cry in his Wheaties if he found out that my boss, who is a Democrat probably has voted for a Republican president the last 20 some odd years................

    With that, said "anonymous" PM'er needs to shut the **** up. Most of us come here to unwind, talk trucks, argue politics/religion, or see what stupid POS is up on EBAY. Some of us don't keep what we do professional a secret and in essence, we may be looked upon in a different light. Myself, if someone has a question concerning some of the oddball stuff we do, I try to answer it and if someone wants to question my manhood for what I do, then I'll take issue with it, but it's all about the differences in people and I take it all in stride. In fact, there's one member here, due to his actions towards another member (tried to get him fired), I now don't advertise where I'm at cause that idiot told me IIRC, if he met me again he would do strange sexual acts with my badge.

    Just let it go. That 'anonymous' PM'er has already proven that he is nothing more than a troll looking to stir trouble. It's find to have differing opinions, but if they want to play the game, then they need to show us their skill.

    NO WHINERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Has anybody gotten a nasty PM from a frequent lounge political poster, leaning slightly to left of far left? Just wondering, because I did. You know who you are dude, quit yer bellyachin and man up. /forums/images/graemlins/angryfire.gif

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    Ok John!

    Since your apparent motive is to gather a “bandwagon Support System”, and post it only from my point of view; let’s post my conversation to “you” exactly as it unfolds.


    Me to you:


    John,

    Neither of us has to agree with each others beliefs politically. In fact I prefer to agree to disagree.

    I do not however care for your name calling, anger and negative tone. I would only hope that not all of the Firefighters from where you work project this image, nor do I believe that your Fire Chief would condone such behavior. In my opinion, this is a disgrace to the “Fire Service Profession”. If you stop and think for a moment; do you really believe that this type of behavior is conducive to the Fire Service? In my opinion, it is not conducive to “any” profession.

    As a Professional Firefighter I take my job as such. I consider myself a “role model” and handle myself accordingly. I have contact with numerous people on a day to day basis both on and off duty; however I always try to project a positive image.

    Neither you nor the guys on K5 have to agree with my beliefs nor do I want you to. You all have a right to your opinions and I can appreciate that. Could you imaging how boring and dysfunctional this world would be if we were all the same? What I don’t care to see is all the anger, uncontrolled emotions and personal attacks.

    I don’t mind if you choose to exhibit this behavior, however please do the profession a favor and remove your “firefighter184” tag. I cannot stand to see someone advertise themselves as a “Firefighter” with such disrespect.

    It is obvious that our political views are not the same, and that is ok. Whether we agree or not, I do believe that you have seen me conducted myself in a professional manor on this site. I am far from perfect I know; I practice every passing day to become even a better person than I was the day before.

    You may laugh at all this; however you will be hard-pressed to criticize my demeanor. My political views/opinions on the other hand are debatable.


    You to me:


    Whoa! Gear down big shifter! Where did that PM come from? What is this in regards to? Is it a particular post? We all tend to get a little emotional about our beliefs, but did I say something really offensive to you?

    By the way, you kinda ask for a lot of grief by posting the way you do in a forum that tends to be pretty right of center.

    If you took any of my posts personally, I'm sorry. I only attack beliefs and opinions, and if I came across as personal, again, sorry dude.

    Bush/Cheney 04

    Me to you:

    John,

    Who wrote this?

    This is just one of the many. If you so choose I will send you all of them. I think you are capable to find them yourself however.

    CANADA?!?!?!?!

    Canada also has a crap-ass military (good troops, but small and ill-equipped). Canada has a MUCH smaller population. Canada is Frenchy. If all the liberal types here in America think Canada is doing it so well, why don't they move there? I mean, in Canada, you can get high whenever you want!

    CANADA! What a maroon...

    You to me:

    Lighten up dude. If you can't take the heat, keep your piehole shut or take it to another less conservative board. While I respect your right to speak your mind, by exercising that right you agree to deal with the responses to your posted opinions.

    I also take umbrage with the fact that you claimed that I am a bad example of firemen. I am state certified Firefighter2, Hazmat Technician, Extrication Specialist, Fire Officer1, Fire Instructor1. I have five years on the job, and am well respected throughout the Denver area fire service. I developed our department's RIT protocols, and am the lead instructor for our fire academy, which provide basic fire training at the state level to several area departments. My political views have no bearing on my skills as a fireman. I am a third generation fireman, and what we do is ingrained from birth in my family, so I think I was born a good fireman, and through hard work and determination, I made myself a great fireman.

    I don't know how it works around your firehouse, but at mine, we have pretty thick skin. Maybe you should toughen up a little.

    John

    Me to you:

    You don't seem to get it, do you?

    I have said nothing about your job skills and abilities as a Firefighter, nor do I care. I do however appreciate the fact that you provide a service with little or no compensation to your community. On the other hand, skills and abilities are a very small fraction of the fire service profession; attitude, and professionalism is much larger. I am asking you to consider the image that you are projecting with your "mouth" not your skills. Did you not say in at least one of your posts that you wish people would show a little respect for Firefighters? Respect is earned based upon attitude not skills.

    I have said that your attitude, personal attacks etc. is not projecting a "positive" outlook on the "Fire Service Profession". A true professional does not act like this. If you were Chief of a Fire Department; would you really be impressed by this type of behavior? I would “Much” rather have a lazy ass Firefighter than someone with a mouth like yours. In fact as a Union Rep, it would be so difficult to defend a person like you because nobody wants an employee that exhibits this behavior.

    You state the fact that you don’t attack a person but “only” beliefs and opinions; however this is so “hypocritical”! In fact it is a plain ass lie! Another thing I cannot stand is a “hypocrite”. Hypocrites say one thing and do another by the way!

    I suggest that you re-read just your posts and pm’s to me. If you cannot see your attitude and personnel attacks, I suggest you spend some time developing your interpersonal skills and forgo fire related classes/training for a while.

    Once again; who wrote this?

    If you took any of my posts personally, I'm sorry. I only attack beliefs and opinions and if I came across as personal, again, sorry dude.

    How about this: If you are so proud of your posts and they are so positive in nature, give me the name of the Fire Department that you work for and I will contact your Chief and personally ask him if he condones such behavior.

    I am sorry if you feel that I’m being too hard on you, however you really need to consider these facts.

    You to me:

    NOW I see what kind of fireman you are. See, in the real world of firefighting, a fireman wants the guy with the best skills and the biggest balls to back him up on a search of the floor above the fire. I run with a crew that has a couple of the biggest assholes on the department, but I deal with them for one reason: They train as hard and as often as I do, and their skills and fireground knowledge are second to none. I don't know how it is in your firehouse, but here we are all expected to be professional and positive. These ARE valued traits to us, BUT they are worth ABSOLUTELY NOTHING if the guy can't fight fire. You are out of your [censored] mind if you are serious when you say you'd take a fat lazy guy over me if he was "nice" and "professional". You're what's wrong with todays fire service. Not me.

    It's guys like you who want the firehouse to be a kinder, gentler, feminized kind of place that [censored] it up for the rest of us who just want to fight fire and do it well. A soft, sensitive motherfucker like you would get eaten up in my house.

    Public image is what you claim to hold against me. Well, my posts and opinions around here generally go over pretty well. As a matter of fact, you are the only person who has come out and just plain got "upset" with me. A couple of other guys around here don't agree with me, but we get it all out in the OPEN FORUM, not via PM's. Man up, dude. I am a professional when I deal with my fire department's customers, but at the when I am on MY TIME, I say what I want, when I want, and how I want, and if I choose to identify myself as a fireman, that's my right. I think firemen supporting Kerry is [censored] AWFUL, but that does not mean that they aren't good firemen.

    Why don't you bring this [censored] to the Lounge where I can whoop your ass on the verbal wrestling mat all day long?

    Just know that from now on, anything you PM me WILL be copied into the Lounge so that everybody can witness the way an intelligent, well-spoken, aggressive conservative can destroy a soft liberal like you.


    Me to you:

    LOL!


    Your statement to me:

    Why don't you bring this [censored] to the Lounge where I can whoop your ass on the verbal wrestling mat all day long?

    What a joke!

    The fact of the matter is that you cannot handle my intelligence. If your above statement were to be true, why do you need to post my pm's to you for all to see?

    This is the reason:

    You want the rest of these guys to have input so they can help bail you out!

    Please: just make sure you post all of my pm's to you and do not leave anything out or modify them!

    Here post this one of mine to you as well!

    John,

    Who wrote this?

    This is just one of the many. If you so choose I will send you all of them. I think you are capable to find them yourself however.

    CANADA?!?!?!?!

    Canada also has a crap-ass military (good troops, but small and ill-equipped). Canada has a MUCH smaller population. Canada is Frenchy. If all the liberal types here in America think Canada is doing it so well, why don't they move there? I mean, in Canada, you can get high whenever you want!

    CANADA! What a maroon...


    Ok!

    Now, if you prefer to challenge me in front of everybody, all I can say is “good luck”!

    Ok all! If John so chooses to challenge me in this fashion; I asked that you allow us to do so without your involvement.

    If "anyone" jumps in I will be forced to exit this session because this is between John and I!

    Thank you!

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    I guess the bottom line is you believe you are a more professional fireman than "John" based on both of your conducts in this CK5 forum.

    Isnt that kinda lame? /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif
     
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    Yup, it's pretty damn lame at that.

    Backcountry, grow the **** up or leave..................
     

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