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Discussion in '1973-1991 K5 Blazer | Truck | Suburban' started by ftn96, Dec 6, 2000.

  1. ftn96

    ftn96 1/2 ton status

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    My haynes manual specifies 3 different models of Blazers. K10 K20 and K30. I thought I had a K5. Whats the deal? Which one do I refer to?

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    Typical Haynes manual!
    The Blazer would have most in common with a K10.
    Are you sure it doesn't read "for Blazers,K10's, K20's, and K30's"?

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    Possotive. See after chat'n wiff Grim yesterday. I went looking through the torque spec which is why I need to know. And it didn't say anything about a blazer. It just shows, like 70-76, then 79 and up k10's, then k20's something else and nothing real freking specific. Looking for balljoints info and spindle to knuckle info, and front wheel bearing outer lock nut stuff. #different numbers no way to tell which to use.

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    Well it should be the same as a K 10. They are both half tons.

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    See thats why Im confussed. Cause Grim seems to think that the torque on the spindle to knuckle was per the haynes to 20 ft lbs, which would be the k10, but since has said that he has found that they are supposed to be 60 ft lbs, which matches up to the k30.

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    trustyk5 is right it should be the same as the k10

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    LOL, I just called the local Gm dealer by work and this guys tells me that he doesn't even use torque wrenches. Im screwed. Ok ,so Im going to go with the K10 numbers and if anything falls off, Im coming for you guys, LOL!!!!!

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    GM shop manual spec for the spindle to the knuckle says 45ftlb for the K10 1/2 ton K20 is 3/4 ton and should be the same. K30 is one ton D60 and that would be different. 20ftlb is not enough! Heck the lug nuts are 80ftlb.
    The year breaks on that part doesn't matter a D44 and a 10bolt are basicly the same from knuckle out so same spec even for the 3/4ton version. The only difference between a 1/2 and a 3/4 is the eight lug hub and the brake backing plate. What does mater is the specs are different for preloading the wheel bearings and that will be the 77 up note thats the year that GM went to the 10 bolt. I have a 10 bolt in my 79 and 44 in my 75. The wheel bearing preload spec/set up is different. The Haynes is correct on the wheel bearings.
    You know I can't belive that misprint has not got haynes sued yet. Somebody has had to loose a wheel from that.

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    On upper balljoint adjustment, adjust nut until you have 25lbs of pull on knuckle using fish scale. Do both side with tie rod disconected.
     
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    Well Grim.

    I took half of your advise last night. I haven't went back to re-do teh passy side yet. But LAst night I assembled the driver side with a little more knowledge of what the hell was going on. See my ball joint post for that. But on those spindle to knuckle nuts. I fell as you, 25 is not enough. So I went a little over half way. I torqued them all to 40, with lock-tight. My uncle, mr. chevy, says that since they are a 3/8 stud he would go over the 40 since that is the standard for a 3/8, weather or not its a grade 2 3 or 5. No wif its an 8 then ok, but 40 should be safe. Its more than 20 , so I felt safe with that. We'll see in a couple of weeks. LOL!!! Everything else went good, except for getting the damn wheel bearing nut and spacer/lock washer lined up. With all that grease all over everything and backing and turning just a c-hair. But I finally got it.
    NOTE: The "wheel bearing lock-nut" is the outer one, right? The one that gets torqued to 80 ft lbs. The inner I got, preload to 50, back of then back to 35 and bakc to line up spacer, no more than 1/4 turn.

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    Re: Well Grim.

    Yeah 40lb should be enough with the loctite. I personaly havn't seen the GM factory book but this went around on the Chevy board at Off-Road about a year ago and sombody that has the factory manual posted the spec. 20lb is just not enough on that.
    Sounds like you got the right preload set up on the bearings. 50 ftlb and spin to seat the bearings. Back off and retorq to 35ftlb spin and the back off 1/4 turn. to line up the lock washer should not need to trn back mor than a couple deg. The nut with the pin then the ring then the nut with no holes or pins. 80ftlb sounds correct.
    Now on your spindle you checked for gauling where the bearings sit right? Blue color is a sign the race has been spinning also. Many times you can take a punch and make some dimples on the spindle where the bearing sits and this enough to fix the problem.

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    Re: Well Grim.

    Well, agian, Mr. Chevy my uncle said these type tapered wheel bearings are called step type or something like that. Said they are supposed the notch their way around the spindle. Just move a smidge or two then stop then turn a smidge and stop, etc. But these are spindles I put out of a junk yard and I polished them up and they look pretty good other that a little surface rust on the edges of one. But other than that they look good. I get to play iwht passenger side again tonight. I'll keep you all posted. Thanks for that help Grim. One of these days Im gonna make it down there to see you and DEpdog. My dad is bugging me to come see his new house there Atlanta.

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    Re: Well Grim.

    Well come on down!!!! Keep watching the list. Dep is setting up the next K5 Tellico run in the spring. It will be posted so keep an eye out for it. Looks like the week before Memorial day.

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    Re: Well Grim.

    I should have Bertha ready by spring. I might re-name her to a him and call him "JIMI" after my lord and savior Mr. Hendrix, being as though it is a Jimmy.

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