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Hello....My name is Greg, and I'm a K5-aholic....! ** UPDATE **

Discussion in '1969-1972 K5 Blazer | Truck | Suburban' started by Greg72, Feb 10, 2002.

  1. Greg72

    Greg72 "Might As Well..." Staff Member Super Moderator

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    Hello....My name is Greg, and I\'m a K5-aholic....! ** UPDATE **

    2/21/02:

    The frame is CLEAN! I have completely stripped it down (every last nut and bolt!) and the only things left are the parts attached by factory rivets......which I WON'T be removing. All tolled, it took just under 40 cans of Brake Cleaner, 10 rolls of paper towels, and 3 toothbrushes to strip it down to bare metal. [​IMG]

    This weekend if the weather is nice, I should be able to get a sandblaster and do the final cleaning of the frame.....so that it shines like brand new!!!

    I should have some additional photos up in the gallery (before too much longer) of the frame now that it's all clean......I'm sure a lot of you are wondering what the term "Every last nut & bolt" actually LOOKS like!!! [​IMG]


    -Greg72

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    Well you guys should have known that the "gears" in my head were turning when I asked if anyone had a spare K5 frame to sell......or how to find photo comparisons of NP205s....!!

    I went out on Saturday morning and picked up a '71 K5 frame.....that's an EXTRA frame, so now I have a complete K5, and the beginning of a second sitting in my garage!!!! (This is how the addict stories always begin, isn't it? [​IMG])

    I figure now I can strip the frame down to the very last nut and bolt, clean it, beadblast or sandblast it, and powdercoat it. SWEET!!! Then, while it's all easy to work on.....slide the 14 Bolt under it, and maybe an 8-Lug Dana44 (for now!)....maybe locate a TH400 (no worries about my big block breaking THAT!) and then get an ORD-Doubler connected too.....figure out all the driveshaft lengths.....mount my 38's.......and VOILA!!! A complete "rolling chassis" that I can swap under my K5 in just a few days.

    That's my latest theory anyway.....but now I'm committed to do it, becuase the frame is in my garage!!!

    I've got a new photo album in my gallery, so follow the link below to see the latest pics.....



    -Greg72

    '72 K5 Blazer - 427BB/TH350/NP205/6" Lift/35x12.50's
    <font color=blue>See it here: </font color=blue><a target="_blank" href=http://coloradok5.com/gallery/albun38>http://coloradok5.com/gallery/albun38</a>
     
  2. naranja72

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    Re: Hello....My name is Greg, and I\'m a K5-aholic....!

    greg,
    After you swap the body, is the dream going to get bigger? Build up the original frame with the ram jet 502 etc... and then swap the body back. Sounds great

    p.s. i need a garage like yours
     
  3. Greg72

    Greg72 "Might As Well..." Staff Member Super Moderator

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    Re: Hello....My name is Greg, and I\'m a K5-aholic....!

    naranja,

    I think I can probably get into enough trouble using my existing 427 BB motor!!!

    All I need is some AFR heads, maybe a little more cam, ceramic coated headers.... [​IMG]



    -Greg72

    '72 K5 Blazer - 427BB/TH350/NP205/6" Lift/35x12.50's
    <font color=blue>See it here: </font color=blue><a target="_blank" href=http://coloradok5.com/gallery/albun38>http://coloradok5.com/gallery/albun38</a>
     
  4. Ryan B.

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    Re: Hello....My name is Greg, and I\'m a K5-aholic....!

    Uh oh... I guess I wasn't kidding about you getting carried away and taking the tub off the frame huh. TH-400 rebuild! I have more pic's to add and I will have a write up in the next week probally.

    Take it easy!

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    Re: Hello....My name is Greg, and I\'m a K5-aholic....!

    greg, join the club!!!!!! now you know what i was thinking about 2 years ago....lol. let me know what type of prices you get for the powdercoating. i had mine done for $325 with the sandblasting. some people wanted up to $1500, so it might be worth the drive to roseville. let me know. good luck on the project. later....tmanofcali

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    Now that we've broken up, I think it's time you kept your promise."
     
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    Re: Hello....My name is Greg, and I\'m a K5-aholic....!

    Now your talkin business! Admitting your problem is the first step! The second frame is a fantastic idea, I wish I would have thought of that last year! Do you have the axles already? The worst part of my whole buildup is that I couldn't drive it for over a year.

    <font color=blue>As my truck gets higher my balance gets lower!<font color=blue>[​IMG] <font color=red><a target="_blank" href=http://coloradok5.com/gallery/albuo72>PICS</a></font color=red>
     
  7. Greg72

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    Re: Hello....My name is Greg, and I\'m a K5-aholic....!

    Ryan,

    Yep....you called it!!! [​IMG] A couple people were starting to get the impression that something was brewing in my head. The more I thought about it....the more it made sense. I'm going to want to swap axles, and add a doubler, and probably switch to a TH400 just to be safe. I knew I was going to want to move the whole engine/trans/xfercase forward about 2" to get some additional firewall clearance and that would be a SERIOUS pain in the a$$ to do with the whole body in the way. On a bare frame, it's almost a joke how easy it will be!

    I don't think it will be a "show truck".....at least in the sense of chrome shocks, hydraulically actuated body parts and ghost flame jobs. It will be VERY nice with everything either powdercoated (stuff that won't be hitting rocks) or epoxy paint for the stuff that will beed to be "touched up" from time to time. I don't see a reason why a truck can't be nice and still get enjoyed offroad. I don't see myself trying stuff like "Tank Trap"....that looks fun for someone else to do, but not me. I can still do mud, snow, sand and some rocks.....just not the really insane stuff. I'm going to have the underside pretty well protected (skidpating and rock sliders) so I should still be able to tackle 90% of what's out there.

    The timeframe for the swap is open-ended. The thing I have to remember is that my truck is perfectly good now (except for the carb problems!) and I can have a lot of fun with it without changing anything. So I doubt that the swap will happen before BlazerFest. However, if things are proceeding well I may try to use Moab as my "inspiration" to get the swap completed.

    I ended up quitting that welding class.....it turned out to be a "bait-and-switch" deal. They offered Oxy/Acetylene, Stick, MIG &amp; TIG.....but when I started into it, they said that MIG and TIG wouldn't be available!!!! What a ripoff.....so I went to the registrar and got my money back. I am going to buy my own MIG welder in the next few days, watch the video, and JUST DO IT! [​IMG] &lt;- Me with welding glasses!

    My wife was gone over the weekend....she hasn't seen the frame yet! But it's in my "Man Space".....the back workshop at my house, so it's not anything that will bother her. She'll probably just shake her head and call me crazy....





    -Greg72

    '72 K5 Blazer - 427BB/TH350/NP205/6" Lift/35x12.50's
    <font color=blue>See it here: </font color=blue><a target="_blank" href=http://coloradok5.com/gallery/albun38>http://coloradok5.com/gallery/albun38</a>
     
  8. Greg72

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    Re: Hello....My name is Greg, and I\'m a K5-aholic....!

    Todd (Tmanofcali),

    Believe me, I haven't forgotten about your truck!!! I know that when it's time to powdercoat, I'll be asking you questions about where to go. I remeber you said you found a shop that did it a lot cheaper than everyone else. I plan to do all the prep work myself (cleaning, sandblasting, etc) so the frame will be ready to shoot with only minor work on their part. That should save money too!

    How is your frame holding up? Is it as strong and durable as you hoped, any chipping? I know that the 3 things people do to frames to protect them is either POR-15, Eastwood Chassis Black Epoxy paint or powdercoating. I don't know which is considered the most durable, but if I had to guess I'd say it's the powdercoat.



    -Greg72

    '72 K5 Blazer - 427BB/TH350/NP205/6" Lift/35x12.50's
    <font color=blue>See it here: </font color=blue><a target="_blank" href=http://coloradok5.com/gallery/albun38>http://coloradok5.com/gallery/albun38</a>
     
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    Re: Hello....My name is Greg, and I\'m a K5-aholic....!

    SkyBlazer,

    I only have the 14BFF so far.....if you look in the photos carefully, you can see it in the background. It's all cleaned up and the spring pads and shock mounts have been ground off. The pumpkin is painted with Corrolless primer (red color). Once the final spring pad locations and shock mounts are added, I can paint the whole thing with a Gloss Chassis Black.

    So now I need to locate a 6-Lug Dana44 with 3.73 gears. I have the 8-Lug conversion parts already, so hopefully the axle will be cheap. It will be nice if I can get all the axles/driveshafts/ driveline completed on this EXTRA frame so that moving the body over will be less work. I have NO idea how long is will take to do the body swap....

    Anyway, I'll continue to post pictures and things progress.... [​IMG]



    -Greg72

    '72 K5 Blazer - 427BB/TH350/NP205/6" Lift/35x12.50's
    <font color=blue>See it here: </font color=blue><a target="_blank" href=http://coloradok5.com/gallery/albun38>http://coloradok5.com/gallery/albun38</a>
     
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    Re: Hello....My name is Greg, and I\'m a K5-aholic....!

    Greg-
    My teacher for nightschool had his '32 ford frame, and his '51 Chevy truck frame both powdercoated. Somewhere locally... As I recall it was not that expensive to have the frame powdercoated. I'll ask him tommorow night when I see him and let ya know.

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    Re: Hello....My name is Greg, and I\'m a K5-aholic....!

    Greg while you have that frame just sitting there could you get me some sketched drawing with dimensions. I wouldn't mind drawing it up in SolidWorks for people to design parts off of.

    '71 Blazer CST w/ a 400sbc, 4" lift, 36" Supper Swampers, and alot of rust
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    Triaged,

    Here's a link to get you started:

    See it here: </font color=blue><a target="_blank" href=http://coloradok5.com/gallery/albun38>http://coloradok5.com/gallery/albun38
     
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    Re: Hello....My name is Greg, and I\'m a K5-aholic....!

    What is that molde # stuff? I think I got the K part but which one is a truck and which is a blazer? Is that part of the vin?

    '71 Blazer CST w/ a 400sbc, 4" lift, 36" Supper Swampers, and alot of rust
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    Re: Hello....My name is Greg, and I\'m a K5-aholic....!

    Way to go Greg! I'm jealous... mostly that you still have some "man" space left. I've got parts bleeding into the rafters, the basement, outside... even the '49 Wagon is stuffed... thanks to you now I’m gonna have to figure out now how to sneak a 2nd frame in under her nose... hmmm... maybe a planter, or a new bed for the kid…

    Watch out for those junkieyards cuz they’ll get you hooked. First they turn you on to a cheep frame… a while later you start craving another part… then another… just one more… don’t call me if you need support!
     
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    Doug,

    Based on what I've seen on your project.....you're beyond the frame stage anyway!! It seems like you were working "bottom up" and have most of the body panel stuff done now.

    The extra frame is certainly a "luxury" I was just outside tonight for another 3 hours with toothbrush, papertowels and brake cleaner......trying to get all the crud off it. I've already spent about 10 hours on the frame and gone through 15 cans of brake cleaner and about 5 rolls of paper towels......come to think of it, the toothbrush is pretty worn out now too!!!

    The fumes really stink! (pun intended!)....fortunately it's non-flammable stuff, so I can run an electric fan with the rollup door WIDE open....that helps quite a bit.

    At this rate, I will probably need at least another 15 hours or so to get the frame completely "de-greased". Then the careful process of removing each wire harness, brake line, gas line and bracket.....noting specifically where each one goes and it's relative position to everything else.

    Then I'll be ready to do some sandblasting (or beadblasting, I haven't figured out what's best yet)....and get the frame into pristine rust-free condition. That will be in my "photo gallery" for sure!!! [​IMG]



    -Greg72

    '72 K5 Blazer - 427BB/TH350/NP205/6" Lift/35x12.50's
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    Re: Hello....My name is Greg, and I\'m a K5-aholic....!

    You know.....now that you mention it, those aren't numbers I can decode either!!!

    The "C" series stuff is usually the 2WD trucks, and the "K" stuff is for 4WD and Blazer.....but you're right, I haven't seen those alpha-numeric sequences before.

    Somebody on this list must know.......let's give the rest of these guys a chance to answer this one!! [​IMG]



    -Greg72

    '72 K5 Blazer - 427BB/TH350/NP205/6" Lift/35x12.50's
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    I just picked the one with the shortest "S" and "R". At least it is ez to change.

    '71 Blazer CST w/ a 400sbc, 4" lift, 36" Supper Swampers, and alot of rust
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    Re: Hello....My name is Greg, and I\'m a K5-aholic....!

    greg, when it comes to degreasing a frame, axle,etc. try using oven cleaner. just buy the cheap stuff at the local dollar store and spray it on and rinse about 15 min. later. little to no scrubbing. it works great. give it a try. later.....tmanofcali

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    Todd,

    I will try the oven cleaner! It makes sense now that I think about it, and it can't be any worse than what I've been going through already...... [​IMG]



    -Greg72

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    Greg, are your fuel tank vent lines intact on this frame. If so, are you taking pics. My vent lines were in a box when I started and I'd love to see the original routing.

    <font color=blue>As my truck gets higher my balance gets lower!<font color=blue>[​IMG] <font color=red><a target="_blank" href=http://coloradok5.com/gallery/albuo72>PICS</a></font color=red>
     

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