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Help Asap 14ff & Dana

Discussion in 'The Garage' started by 58 apache, Aug 28, 2006.

  1. 58 apache

    58 apache 1/2 ton status

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    I Know Someone Selling A Corporate 14ff And Dana With 410's. Are They All The Same? How Do I Know If They Will Fit In My Rig? Got A 58 Front Halfed With 86 K5 4x4 Gear 400 Short Block Th350 (upgrading To 700r4) 208(getting 205) 10 Bolts Now. Are There Different Akle Lenghths Or Anything I Should Know Before I Buy?
     
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    If you're talking a 14ff and dana 44 out of a 73-91 chevy, then yes, it will bolt right up.. you'll just need a conversion u joint for the 14ff, so that your driveshaft will work. If you're in doubt, snap some pics of the said axles you're going to buy...

    You might need to swap your calipers from your current front axle onto the d44 axle, because the banjo bolt on a 10 bolt is USUALLY 10mm, and the banjo bolt on a d44 is USUALLY 7/16.. you could also just swap front brake lines, or drill out your current front brake lines... whatever be the case, don't worry about the brake lines, it will be easy as pie... Post pics of the axles when you buy them, and keep us updated.. its a super easy swap and you won't regret it..

    thanks,
    James

    ps: how much are they asking for the axles? usually you can get these axles for a decent price.. shouldn't cost nearly as much as a 1 ton front axle...
     
  3. 58 apache

    58 apache 1/2 ton status

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    they are used. is there a way to tell if they were abused? does it matter? is 750 a good price for both?
     
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    RUN!!!!! if its a d44 front, DONT spend that much money!!

    250-350 is a good price for both... for 750, you're getting awfully close to the price of a 14ff/d60 combo, which is rare and indestructable....


    now if you're talking d60 front end.. then that's a great deal... take lots of pictures of both axles and post up here... but just please dont' spend that much money on 3/4 ton stuff..
     
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    THANKS!! any ideas on where to look? whats the better combo? 14ff and a d60 front?
     
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    The better combo is the 14ff/d60........but you're gonna pay alot for that... No real need unless you're going with huge tires and doing hardcore wheeling...

    For the towing purposes you posted about a 14ff/d44 or 14ff/corp 10 front is gonnna be plenty. 73-78 (maybe 79 sometimes) was usally d44... these have a 44 stamped not too far from the cover, on the axle housing... the transition was from about 78-80... some trucks got the d44, some got the corp 10 bolt... 80-91 had corp 10 bolt front..

    d44 and corp 10 are so similar in strength, that either one will be just fine..

    I would look on the classifieds here, sooner or later someobdy will post a good deal nearby you.


    EDIT: keep an eye on this forum http://coloradok5.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=60

    also good classifieds at www.pirate4x4.com

    also check the classifieds in the sunday paper

    check www.craigslist.com for your area

    alot of people part out 3/4 ton trucks, and you can get some nice axles cheap...
     
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  8. 58 apache

    58 apache 1/2 ton status

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    so if i could score the 14ff/ d44hd from that guy for 500? thats the lowest i could get him. is that still too much he is kinda local so i could drive to get them i hate to think of a shipping cost.
     
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    That would be the very upper end of what I would pay, and probably more than I would pay.. but I'm a cheap sob :doah:
     
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    That's still pretty steep for a D44/14bff. Unless they have upgrades like a locker for the 14 and yukon shafts for the 44, they're not worth that much. If it's a D60/14ff, than that's the steal of a lifetime. If it's just a D44, I assure you, a better deal can be found with good searching.
     
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    thanks wont be getting those then.
     
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    Good call!! :bow: patience really pays off when searching for truck parts deals... never jump into something without researching it alot first... I research about 3 hours for every one hour of wrenching :doah:
     
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    measure twice cut once.........
     
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    That is indeed one badass antique you have there, btw. I always love a nice apache.
     
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    thanks pvfjr. on here tryin to make it better......hold on whal i get my checkbook....good still got some checks left....
     
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    If you definitely want a 14ff D60 combo, let me know. I know where there are more sitting. Just need the money to get them. Is the rear half of your truck still the 58, besides the axle?? If that is the case, then a 14ff out of a 1 ton will bolt, probly have to have new shock mounts, no biggy.
     
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    changing from a half ton rear to the 14 bolt you will need to shorten your rear drive shaft and if you put a dana 60 up front you will also have to shorten your front shaft to

    i took a 14 bolt out of a single wheel 1 ton and it bolted right in my 4x4 63
    the cab and chasis had a narrow 14 bolt and the dually with a bed on it had a wide 14 bolt or dana 70
    the single wheel 1 ton is the one you will want to look for to bolt right in your truck with changing shock mounts

    and i sell 4-10 geared 3/4 tons around hear for 600 bucks and they sell fast so to me 500 bucks wasn't a bad price i havent bought just a set of axles but i get complete trucks for any where from 100 bucks to 800 bucks then part them out

    but all the dana 60s i get i hold on to they are allmost priceless around here
     
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    That is not always true I put a 60/14FF combo in mine and I am still running the stock half ton shafts. I have flexed it out and did no damage to shafts or tcase.

    He is going from a Th350/208 to a 700/205 combo so he will most likely need to change driveshafts because of that but not for the axle swap alone.


    Ira
     
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    they said with the 700/208 it will be almost 2" longer than the 350/208 so im looking at resizing driveshafts anyways and if i doo the whole driveline swap at one time i should be able to figure that out last right?
     
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    Yep you would not want to guess on drivelines. Your best option is to get everything bolted in and then measure your driveshafts and have them built. Like you said measure twice and cut once:D .

    No matter how much I trim this thing is still too short:haha: .

    Ira
     

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