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HELP!!!! Broken D60 Detroit, Trip in one week

Discussion in 'The Garage' started by ntsqd, Dec 24, 2003.

  1. ntsqd

    ntsqd 1/2 ton status

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    Short story; WARN Drive flange splines let go of the axle splines. /forums/images/graemlins/angryfire.gif Got those parts. Shoulda seen it coming, Detroit's center 3 parts are also toast - probably for the same reason WARN says not to use their hub fuses with Detroits. /forums/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif /forums/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif

    Are those parts available for something reasonably less than a whole new Detroit? FWIW I'm under the impression this is not a 'soft' locker.

    Any leads on who might have them in So. CA ? On Friday ?

    Anyone in So. CA got a good used D60 non soft locker FS ?
     
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    mudhog THEGAME Staff Member Super Moderator

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    don't the Detroit's have a warranty?
     
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    After MISF gets thru with something, it never fits within their warrenty rules. The Ti pins in his back, that he broke, weren't warrentied. We also don't have time to mess with it right now.
     
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    mudhog THEGAME Staff Member Super Moderator

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    that sucks /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif
     
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    BadDog SOL Staff Member Super Moderator Author

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    Is this an insert locker? Sounds like it.

    Also, I have 35 spline Warns and your making me nervous about my new full carrier Detroit /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif...
     
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    Nope, full carrier type.

    The circlips WARN supplied with the axle kit did not fit the grooves in the axles. They were both too narrow and too big to fit properly. He got locking hubs originally, having been talked into them by the sales rep when he started out wanting flanges. When the replacement drive flanges for the blown hub came they did NOT have any instructions or other parts with them, so no circlips were used. Eventually this allowed an axle to move to where there was only 1/2 the width of the drive flange splines engaged in the axle splines. I speculate that when they finally let go the rapid unloading of the Detroit (was in a corner on the street at the time) did the damage to the locker.

    I understand WARN says not to use their hub fuses with a Detroit for much that same reason. So if you break an axle or a drive flange/locking hub on a WARN FF kit in an axle that has a Detroit, INSPECT the Detroit too.
     
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    Yes, I'm aware of the likelihood of shock load destroying Detroits, usually due to broken axles, hubs, or joints. That's one of the main reasons I went with slugs over lockout hubs. But my slugs came with lock rings for the 35 spline stubs.

    FWIW when you fix this, the stubs are too long for the D60 spindle and even with a clip they allow the rear seal (by the Torrington bearing) to disengage. My fix is based on Brook’s (the Freak). I used 5 Nitrile o-rings between the lock ring and the slug. This keeps the slug at the very back of the splines on the stub, the seal pulls snug against the back of the spindle, and the stack of o-rigs allows some flex and preload on the system. Works very well as far as I can tell...
     
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    I wasn't clear, this is a rear D60. Thanks anyway.
     
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    Aha, I was wondering how a stub could pull back 1/2 way through the slug. /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif /forums/images/graemlins/rotfl.gif
     

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