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Help needed - Wifi users

Discussion in 'The Lounge' started by cbbr, Oct 12, 2005.

  1. cbbr

    cbbr 1 ton status GMOTM Winner

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    I finally bit the bullet and bought a laptop. My office is adjacent to a Quality Inn Hotel with an unsecured wifi network. Problem is that I am on the 7th floor so I'm a little too far away. Is there any way to get the signal? An antenna maybe?
     
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    I've been planning on getting one for my router to extend it's range to my Gazebo, but I haven't seen one for the built-in wireless card in a laptop. Ya can get a good wireless router for under $100.00. Most, if not all are plug and go with XP. ;)
     
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    I am brand new to wifi, so excuse my ignorance. I cannot do anything to the router (it is the hotel's).

    What i am looking for is a way to catch their signal in my office (free internet) like I can in the parking lot. I was hoping that there is a repeater or antenna that would do the trick.
     
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    search google for "pringles can antenna" dig around a little - there are lots of fun things to increase the range but it might cost you a buck or two.
     
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    I saw that. Have you actually tried it?
     
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    I have been big into WIFI for a while now, to use the cantenna you need a special wireless card that will accept antennas. The card I use is an Orinoco PC Gold classic. It combined with my antenna I can search for wireless networks pretty much anywhere in sight (within reason of course). Check out Ether Design they have kits that you can order. One thing to becareful about is the legalities of using an unsecured connection. Its a grey area, but it is leaning towards the point of unethical. Ethics arent my big thing so have at it, others might not like it however.
     
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    The legal/ethical is definately getting more interesting. Here's something I read a while back:

    By Associated Press
    Republished from Yahoo! News
    Use a wireless modem, go to jail
    ST. PETERSBURG, Fla. – Police have arrested a man for using someone else’s wireless Internet network in one of the first criminal cases involving this fairly common practice.

    Benjamin Smith III, 41, faces a pretrial hearing this month following his April arrest on charges of unauthorized access to a computer network, a third-degree felony.

    Police say Smith admitted using the Wi-Fi signal from the home of Richard Dinon, who had noticed Smith sitting in an SUV outside Dinon’s house using a laptop computer.

    The practice is so new that the Florida Department of Law Enforcement doesn’t even keep statistics, according to the St. Petersburg Times, which reported Smith’s arrest this week.

    Innocuous use of other people’s unsecured Wi-Fi networks is common, though experts say that plenty of illegal use also goes undetected: such as people sneaking on others’ networks to traffic in child pornography, steal credit card information and send death threats.

    Security experts say people can prevent such access by turning on encryption or requiring passwords, but few bother or are unsure how to do so.

    Wi-Fi, short for Wireless Fidelity, has enjoyed prolific growth since 2000. Millions of households have set up wireless home networks that give people like Dinon the ability to use the Web from their backyards but also reach the house next door or down the street.

    It’s not clear why Smith was using Dinon’s network. Prosecutors declined to comment, and a working phone number could not be located for Smith.


    I'm a little concerned about this too - my neighbor has an unsecured connection that I can use in my house. If I can be arrested for a felony theft - can he be arrested for trespass? After all his unsecured radio waves are polluting my airspace :D
     
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    I've used my nieghbors network... I sent a page to thier printer saying their network is unsecured and they should give some consideration to securing it. I do'nt know how it came out...
     
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    :haha: :haha: Been there done that!

    I've always wondered what they thought when they get the paper. They are probably so clueless they really have no idea what just happened and think they have a virus.
     
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    :haha: :haha: :haha:
    Too true...!
     
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    I have had some internet calls where people can't get there email's and never recieve any print outs they do, when i get there they are set up on there neighbours unsecured network, which has more signal then there own unsecured network. Idiot proof windows xp defualts to whatever it detects first with the most signal and will always connect to it. I logged on to there router to check the settings (didnt set a password on it, it was just defaulted) and noticed that the settings were set up for a diffrent internet provider then our settings. I promptly changed the settings on my customers computer and then walked over to the neighbours and told him what had been happening. I dont know if he believed me or not, but he didnt really seem to care.

    In 20 20 hindsight, the free internet that is coming from the hotel is probably an open hotspot for the hotel guests, so I would say have at it. They will most likely have it throttled so no one uses up the bandwidth.
     
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    Its wide open and fast as long as I am down in the parking lot. I can barely get the signal from my office but not well enough to connect, just to see it there. I need an antenna or something without opening up the computer which may cause a divorce. My wifi card is internal which was cool until now. :doah:
     
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    If you have a pcmcia card slot you can buy a cheap wireless card with and external antenna port. Don't let the internal card stop your internet piracy :D
     

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