here\'s some pics of the weird stuff people had asked for. Dial up beware Caddy motor. Ready to go to the builder. My uncle builds all my motors and always has. I just like to do some of the grunt work for him like cleaning off the gasket material and degreasing parts that aren't getting hot tanked. Things of this nature. I really like this view. Looks really wide in the axle. Here's the tilt. The hinge point is raised up off the winch mounting surface so that the front end and winch won't get in a dispute for space. The miniaturized topper. The topper is actually the front and rear of the original. The rear portion that I used had to also be split in the center and moved outward so that it would still sit on the bed rails. And the drop away shackle. Kinda like an AK57 but my own design. The rear most of the frame is 10" higher with drop away shackles unpinned. Could go higher but I have yet to fab up some peices to keep the shackle and drop tube from going over center. And my score of the day. York 210 FREEBIE /forums/images/graemlins/peace.gif Robzilla, 31" at the center of the rockers.