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Discussion in 'Rocky Mountain Region' started by BLZN4FN, Nov 29, 2004.

  1. BLZN4FN

    BLZN4FN 1/2 ton status

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    My folks live in Sedona. Is there any trails around that area?
    Thinking about a spring vacation and take my dad out for the day looking for a trail about 7-8 rating.
    thanks
     
  2. FWP

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    Not sure what you mean by 7-8, but there are a few easy trails in Sedona (pink jeep tour stuff), a tough one out near cottonwood, and many forest roads. Best bet is to get the AZ wheelin book that has the trails listed, I forget the name.
     
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    I have been meaning to get one myself /forums/images/graemlins/k5.gif /forums/images/graemlins/k5.gif
     
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    Broken Arrow: Very nice and relatively mild trail easily done in a relatively stock 4x4 and very scenic. Just watch out for the Pink Jeep Tours, you gotta be an ass to apply for a job there, and they think they own the trail.

    Several fire roads that are fairly nice and scenic. One just north of town, can't remember what it's called.

    Snebly Hill Rd. Not really a trail, just a very bad road. Beautiful view though and it comes out on I17 south of Flagstaff.

    Oak Creek Canyon. Paved road but nice, goes along Slide Rock but too cold for that now.

    Visit the Ranger station just W of the Oak Creek bridge (off to the South kinda on the river bank). They have free maps and are very nice.

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    Also not sure about "7-8" rating, but to get some "good" trails, the nearest I know of are on Table Mesa, just south of Black Canyon off I17.
     
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    Best bet is to get the AZ wheelin book that has the trails listed, I forget the name.

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    I use this one a lot. /forums/images/graemlins/waytogo.gif

    Guide to Arizona Backroads & 4-Wheel Drive Trails

    As well as the Arizona Back Country Adventure
     
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    I think this is the rating system he's refering to:

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    Graded dirt road. Dry, or less than 3" water crossing depth. Gentle grades. 2WD under all conditions except snow. No width problems, two vehicles wide.


    Rating:[​IMG]
    Dirt road. Dry, or less than 3" water crossing depth. Some ruts. Slight grades, up to 10 degrees. 2WD under most conditions. Rain or snow may make 4WD necessary. Usually one and a half to two vehicles wide.


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    Dirt road. Rutted, washes, or gulches. Water crossings up to 6" depth. Passable mud. Grades up to 10 degrees. Small rocks or holes. 4WD recommended but 2WD possible under good conditions and with adequate ground clearance and skill. No width problems for any normal vehicle. Vehicle passing spots frequently available if less than two vehicles wide.


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    Rutted and/or rocky road. No shelves but rocks to 9". Water crossings usually less than hub deep. Passable mud. Grades moderate, up to 15 degrees. Side hill moderate up to 15 degrees. 4WD under most conditions. No width problems, vehicle passing spots frequently available if less than two vehicles wide.


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    Rutted and/or rocky road. No shelves. Rocks up to 12" and water crossings up to 12" with possible currents. Passable mud. Moderate grades to 15 degrees. 6" holes. Side hill to 20 degrees. 4WD required. No width problems.


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    Quite rocky or deep ruts. Rocks to 12" and frequent. Water crossings may exceed hub depth with strong currents. Shelves to 6". Mud may require checking before proceeding. Moderate grades to 20 degrees. Sidehill may approach 30 degrees. 4WD necessary and second attempts may be required with stock vehicles. Caution may be required with wider vehicles.


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    Rocks frequent and large, 12" and may exceed hub height. Holes frequent or deep (12"). Shelves to 9". Mud 8" deep and may be present on uphill sections. Grades to 25 degrees and sidehill to 30 degrees. Water crossings to 18" and may have strong currents. 1-1/2 vehicles wide. 4WD required. Driver experience helpful.


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    Heavy rock and/or severe ruts. Rocks exceeding hub height frequent. Shelves to 12". Deep mud or uphill mud sections. Steep grades to 25 degrees and can be loose or rocky. Water crossings may exceed 30" in depth. Side hill to 30 degrees. One vehicle wide. Body damage possible. Experience needed. Vehicle Modifications helpful.


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    Severe rock over 15". Frequent deep holes over 15". Shelves over 15". Mud bog conditions (long, deep, no form bottom). Over 30" water crossings with strong currents. Steep grades over 30 degrees. Sidehill over 30 degrees. May not be passable by stock vehicles. Experience essential. Body damage, mechanical breakdown, rollover probable. Extreme caution required.


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    Severe conditions. Extreme caution recommended. Impassable by stock vehicles. Winching required. Trail building necessary. May be impassable. Impassable under anything but ideal conditions. Vehicle damage probable. Personal injury possible. Extreme caution necessary.

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  7. mxfireman

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    Best bet is to get the AZ wheelin book that has the trails listed, I forget the name.

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    I use this one a lot. /forums/images/graemlins/waytogo.gif

    Guide to Arizona Backroads & 4-Wheel Drive Trails

    As well as the Arizona Back Country Adventure

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    I would highly recommend this book.
     
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    Colorado uses a 10 point rating system for trails. We use 5pt. So his 7-8 would be a 3.5-4.0 trail for us.
     
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    What's that one rating system MRK5 quoted above? It's kinda wierd. eg, A 7= 4wd required /forums/images/graemlins/histerical.gif
     
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    to get some "good" trails, the nearest I know of are on Table Mesa, just south of Black Canyon off I17.

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    We have a few, just gotta come up here, I'll show ya... /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
     
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    Colorado uses a 10 point rating system for trails. We use 5pt. So his 7-8 would be a 3.5-4.0 trail for us.

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    When "9" is "15" Rocks"? Looks to me more like their "10" is our 3.5-4 trails. /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif What would they call our trails with 20"-60"+ shelfs? They don't even have a category for things like Annihilator, not to mention Asylum and Twisted, and even Terminator would probably top a "10" ("Impassable by stock vehicles"????) ... /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

    Fred, I do want to take you up on that, but not till it warms up! /forums/images/graemlins/eek.gif
     
  12. mrk5

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    That comes from 4x4trails.net.

    You could see if they have some of the trails in Arizona listed, and what they rate them at.

    The most complete info is for Colorado trails, but they have stuff from other states too.
     

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