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house raid and arms theft /robbery near here last night

Discussion in 'The Lounge' started by R72K5, Jun 25, 2004.

  1. R72K5

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    last night in a small tiny town call illiopolis http://realestate.yahoo.com/re/neighborhood/search.html?csz=Illiopolis%2CIL near here near decatur IL a house was raided by several teens and occupants inside the house were tied up and demanded of them were guns drugs and money, the teens made off with about six arms, including a modified SKS that holds 40 rounds of ammo and what i believ eis not very smart is that an officer or chief was being interviewed by the decatur news channel and he told them during the interview that the SKS could penetrate police vests,

    now... i dont think that its a good idea to be telling everyone that, i dont think so because i think that most likely the teens probably dont know all that much about SKS ammunition and if they really dont then now they do and now they will know what they are capable of, they made off the 1,000 rounds of this ammo.

    this s just another of a billion reasons why certain/most all guns need to be siezed and destroyed,.

    i see no reasons any type of guns cept maybe...... just maybe.,... .22's and 12 guages and such should be even produced, let alone circulating,

    i dunno,,


    so even small farming towns IL is no longer safe anymore, its been getting increasingly common- atleast around here in this farming town and also in surrounding counties- that things like this occur and that there even have been homicides and such that used to occur so infrequently that you couldnt remember when the last time anything like such occured, but now several instances of homicide and such occur here in lincoln, http://realestate.yahoo.com/re/neighborhood/search.html?csz=Lincoln%2CIL i could give examples but they are pretty grim just like any other instances of this would be, no different from any that occur in a city.

    the crime index of illiopolis shows ot be real low compared ot national average on the above page, but looks like just like with other small towns thats going ot be increased, and the index of her ein lincoln already is damn close to same as the national, i bet that will be jacked up now,

    and they show lincln to be 20k population, lol thats wayyyyyyy overposted, there might be 3/4 of that, if all the college students are in town, when they are not then there might be 5,000 in town, other than ppl from outside of town during the day, at night town is dead as in like abandoned dead, nothing stirring at all cept at the taverns til 2am,

    heh


    dunno why i made this post, i guess just to show another example of what i believe is the media getting too involved and letting info that really shouldnt be known get released, but in this case its not just the media's fault, but maybe it is..
    and also to show another example of why most guns and ammunition should be destroyed, asap,.
     
  2. 84gmcjimmy

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    woah thats scary! 1,000 rounds of police vest penetrating rounds. Do you know if the police has any suspects yet /forums/images/graemlins/eek.gif
     
  3. sled_dog

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    I stopped reading cause your typing was hurting my head big time, and you comment that nothing but 12 guages and .22s should be allowed in the country, I won't even bother wasting breath on it just let someone else come along and do it for me.
     
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    yeah what you said
     
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    certain/most all guns need to be siezed and destroyed,.

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    While we're at it let's ban all those useless SUV's like Suburbans and Blazers. They are really nothing more than dangerous toys that nobody really has any use for.


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    this s just another of a billion reasons why

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    I'll make it easy for you.

    Give me just 10 good reasons.

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    Dude.... we have a Constitutional RIGHT to keep and bear arms. What you think or feel on the issue is irrelevant to the Constitution.


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    You cant be serious about thinking any gun but a 22 or 12 guage should be banned !!!
    Just because the clip for that gun can hold 40 rounds, why do you think it is so evil ???
    With your thinking why not take it one SMALL step further & ban any vehicle that can hold 40 people.
    I can see it now lets ban buses because you could take 40 people on a bus & run it off a cliff.
    That would make one EVIL bus.
    How about this lets ban any vehicle that can do over 70 mph.

    Simple logic

    PEOPLE KILL PEOPLE, NOT GUNS.

    Why is when you kill someone with a gun its the guns fault
    but if you kill them with a car its the drivers fault ???

    I really dont see what the big deal is about armor piercing ammo !
    I have some, that doesnt mean Im gonna go on a killing spree.
    Besides I would be aiming for the head not the chest.

    I guess I'll step off my soap box now.
    As you can see this is a real sore subject with me.
     
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    I agree, the media spewed too much information about that...

    Who's dumb enough to invade a house with firearms? Or since they got away with it, who's smart enough??

    There has to be more to this story. A guy with a modified SKS doesn't just forget he can use it to end the home invasion.

    I have heard about at least 5 shootings in the last week, and it's mond boggling. What is NOT reported is whether these shootings are occuring with legal or illegal firearms. Why is that an important fact? Because if they're illegal, it proves removing them from citizens hands is ineffective at stopping gun violence.
    Interestingly, unless you're LE in the two counties of the shootings I'm referring to, you CANNOT carry a fiearm. So, by that, they were illegal firearms.

    A 15 yo girl and her cousing were shot on thier front porch by a guy riding by on a bicycle earlier this week. I doubt he would have fired that gun so randomly if he thought a neighbor or even the kids themselves could/would have shot back.

    Removing and destroying guns will not stop gun violence, because it's not possible to complete such a mission. So the effect ends up being that only legal firearms are confiscated, while the illegal ones stay illegal and available.


    So, to pose a question to you, what violent act did the modded SKS cause that justifies it's destruction or removal from citizenry, that would not have occurred with your approved .22 or 12 guage?
     
  9. Z3PR

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    I enjoy my guns !!!! I have hours of fun going out to the shooting range. I see nothing wrong with responcible gun owners. I don't need the bullets that'll go through the vests the police use. I go target shooting, thats about all. I am very offended by the people who want to take away our guns !!!!!!
     
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    i dont knoiw abouit you but i wouldent want to be shot by a .22 or a 12 eaither, a 12 will f-you up just as much as anny other gun, its all the stupid people that own guns not the guns that are the problem, P.S. im looking for a sig saur?sp? 45 if anny one knows where a good one is for sale,
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    my big point about banning guns is this, look at the crimes being commited with guns, now look at how many of those intentional crimes are commited with ILLEGAL firearms. Meaning a criminal gets a gun in an illegal manner, never registering or anything and then commits a crime with it. How will gun laws prevent that? If we start all these new gun bans and such, why would the criminals suddenlly stop? They were breaking laws before what the hell do they care if they are breaking one more???
     
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    What about parental responsibility in raising their children? That gun could have sat in that house forever and never caused a problem, but because of some punk kids it is now a problem. I think that maybe we shouldn't waste so much time getting rid of guns and put that effort into raising "normal" well behaved kids. Or wait, the government has their nose in that also and won't let us raise and discipline our children.....nevermind. It sounds like the problem now originates with our socialist government who would love nothing more that to see us defensless, I wonder why? /forums/images/graemlins/thinking.gif

    Ya, I think it would be great if no law abiding citizens had guns. Then the theifs could just enter my house whenever they want with their illegal guns and steal all of my stuff while I watch. What would they be afraid of? They will know for sure that I have no guns. Do you think that a rapist would be so willing to rape a woman with a 9MM strapped to her hip? I don't think so. Do you think that the convenient store robber will not use a gun because it is illegal? If there were no guns that would mean less hunting. I don't hunt, but I understand it's importance as animal control. This country would so quickly become over-populated with animals that we would have nothing left to eat becuase the anilmals would eat all of our food! (this kinda goes for the /forums/images/graemlins/screwy.gif "stop all hunting" crowd).

    Gun control and animal rights activist amaze me at how they can propose such wonderful ideas without even thinking about what the results of their great thinking will be.

    I wonder if the group of people that doesn't want any trees cut down ever though of what they would use for toilet paper? Saran Wrap?
     
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    Here are some sayings for you:

    Guns don't kill people, people kill people.
    If you outlaw guns, only outlaws will have guns.


    Robberies in Israel are the lowest in the world. You know why? Because everyone has a gun. You aren't going to try to break into someone's house if you figure they have a gun to put you on your ass drowing in a pool of your own blood. It's especially true since you figure everyone there knows how to operate a gun and has one ready to "put a cap in yo ass".


    Here in the US... robberies and gun violence happen because people know they'll get away without being shot 999 times out of 1000. They say only 1/6 of homes have a gun in them anymore and 1/30 can get the gun out and loaded in under 5 minutes. That's why people get away with gun violence.


    The reason why people hate guns is because they fear them. They don't respect guns. They see them as barbaric weapons only used for death and destruction. I can say the same about your microwave oven, your air conditioner, and most certainly your automobile.

    There are around 45,000 gun fatalities every year (accidental and intentional) and there are an equal number of automobile fatalities every year. I'd say automobiles are more dangerous because a miniscule amount of automobile accidents are intentional.

    You do just about anything wrong and you lose your right to own a gun. Yet you can get away with drunk driving. I believe anyone caught drunk driving should lose their license for a year the first time they get caught and the second time they lose it for ten years. There is no reason to EVER drunk drive, it is far more dangerous than a gun.


    So, if you think everyone needs to have their guns taken away then take away their right to drive as well. Many people don't deserve the privilege of driving.



    If more people had guns and were responsible and educated gun owners then the world would be a safer place. However, responsible and educated doesn't apply to many people. Most people don't even know how to change a spare tire on something they use EVERY day, I don't expect any of them would handle a tool like a gun properly. Most of them can't even manage a lawnmower with care.
     
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    Wow, your pretty naive. /forums/images/graemlins/deal.gif You must've been born with a silver spoon in your mouth cause you've never been in a situation where you could get hurt. I own numerous firearms and I have not and will not hesistate to use them to protect myself or whomever else is in my home. I have been in a number of predictaments in which being armed has saved my life and my property from being stolen.

    Maybe it's cause your young but it still amazes me that with all the information available on the Internet, you choose such an ignorant point of view... /forums/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

    Someday you too will learn the importance of guns, but by then it might be too late...
     
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    Will a pellet gun protect me if someone tried to break into my house?
     
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    If by someone you mean pigeon, then yes, yes it will... /forums/images/graemlins/waytogo.gif
     
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    So if I shot a burglar with it, he could keep running?
     
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    You are joking right? /forums/images/graemlins/thinking.gif

    /forums/images/graemlins/doah.gif Some dudes can take mutiple rounds(9mm, .38, .22, etc) before they go down. A pellet will just bounce off of most people... /forums/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif /forums/images/graemlins/histerical.gif
     
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    its doubtful he'd even notice you shot him with it. Or if he did it might just make him angry.
     
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