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how can i tell a dana 44 from a 60?

Discussion in 'The Garage' started by dodgetruck91, Dec 22, 2003.

  1. dodgetruck91

    dodgetruck91 Registered Member

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    just wondering if theres any way to tell the difference? thanks /forums/images/graemlins/k5.gif
     
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    Looking at the diff cover, at the bottom right web, it will either say 44 or 60 /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif
     
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    yep, thats the easy way to do it. if u are familiar with 1/2 tons hubs... the D60 hubs are significantly larger which can make for an easy ID too.

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    The easy way to tell is to look at the spring plates .The one on the pumpkin will have 1 u bolt and 2 bolts into the housing. also the steering arm will have 4 bolts in a square pattern holding it on.
     
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    The quickest way that I know of is to look at the steering arm. If it's held onto the knuckle with 3 bolts in a slight arc, it's a 44 or a 10-bolt. If it's hold on by 4 bolts in a rectangular pattern, it's a 60. Don't just go by the size of the hubs, as many folks are fooled by the large hubs on old external hub Dana 44's and think they're 60's. /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif
     
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    hmmm... good call... are those d44 hubs ur talking about the exact same size as 60 ones?

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    Here are my D44 externally mounted hub(altho with full time cap)

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    Don't forget Fords don't use two bolts in to the housing through the spring plate they use all ubolts.
     
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    Did not know that.Thanks for the info /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif
     
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    are those d44 hubs ur talking about the exact same size as 60 ones?

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    They're pretty big. If they still have the factory Spicer hubs then they look massive and many newbies get fooled into thinking that means it's a Dana 60. /forums/images/graemlins/eek.gif /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif
     
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    I always just look for kingpins. I stuck my head between tire and fender when I bought my K30, saw kingpins, and bought the truck. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
     
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    The easy way to tell is to look at the spring plates .The one on the pumpkin will have 1 u bolt and 2 bolts into the housing. also the steering arm will have 4 bolts in a square pattern holding it on.

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    my 83 k20 10 bolt has three U joints, one on housing and other two on tubes

    dont all dana 60 have fill plug in the cover in about middle of it ?
    the numbers '60' are cast in lower corner webbing fo diff housing if you look, are pretty big numbers, and 44 have 44 cast there instead of 60

    60 are simple to identify from 44 once you have done it once. why are you looking at an axle that someone claims is a 60, or ?


    you guys are bringing up some good difference details from 44's to 60's, keep them coming /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif



    i believe that TRE ends for 60's are different setup than on 10 and 20 series trucks, im pretty sure, but i dont know details right now/
     
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    I always just look for kingpins.

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    Seems to me that doesn't always work. I seem to recall that some Ford 60's didn't use kingpins. So it could mess up someone wanting to go to a high pinion setup. But it should be correct for GM's. And the caps for kingpins have the 4-bolts that I mentioned above. /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif
     
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    try picking up one end. If you can lift it it is a d44.
    If you can't, its a d60 /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
     
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    I look for a massive u-joint. I swear those a-shaft joints are really close to a 1310. Ya some fords have balljoints, some 44's have huge hubs (mine does and it confuses people a lot). If you are familiar with a 1/2 ton rig than you'll notice a 10B pumpkin might fit inside a 60 /forums/images/graemlins/rotfl.gif ($1600 worth of axle gets a lot of metal)
     
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    most defintely, a 60 is one heavy muther.
     
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    I always just look for kingpins.

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    Seems to me that doesn't always work. I seem to recall that some Ford 60's didn't use kingpins. So it could mess up someone wanting to go to a high pinion setup. But it should be correct for GM's. And the caps for kingpins have the 4-bolts that I mentioned above. /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif

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    I wasn't looking at Ford stuff, only GM, so that wasn't an issue.

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    I look for a massive u-joint. I swear those a-shaft joints are really close to a 1310.

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    Actually, they're much meatier than a 1310.
     
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    There are also axles out there that have kingpins and are not necessarily desirable. Such as the closed knuckle 60's. I think you really need to look at each of the things mentioned here and when you think you have found one then it's worth climbing under there to scrape the gunk off of the pumpkin where it says 60F.
     
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    I wasn't looking at Ford stuff, only GM, so that wasn't an issue.

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    Yep, but other folks that read this thread may NOT be looking only at GM, so making a sweeping generalization that isn't accurate isn't very useful to them. /forums/images/graemlins/eek.gif
     
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    I wasn't looking at Ford stuff, only GM, so that wasn't an issue.

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    Yep, but other folks that read this thread may NOT be looking only at GM, so making a sweeping generalization that isn't accurate isn't very useful to them. /forums/images/graemlins/eek.gif

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    Well shoot me for thinking this was a GM site. /forums/images/graemlins/rotfl.gif /forums/images/graemlins/rotfl.gif /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif
     

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