Dismiss Notice

Welcome To CK5!

Registering is free and easy! Hope to see you on the forums soon.

Score a FREE t-shirt and membership sticker when you sign up for a Premium Membership and choose the recurring plan.

How good is your oil filter (link to pics)

Discussion in 'The Garage' started by 74Chev, Mar 2, 2005.

  1. 74Chev

    74Chev 1/2 ton status

    Joined:
    Sep 19, 2002
    Posts:
    102
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Oregon
  2. Z3PR

    Z3PR Banned

    Joined:
    Mar 30, 2002
    Posts:
    19,217
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Everywhere
    Anymore, I just run Wix. That's what the local parts house carries.
     
  3. 74Chev

    74Chev 1/2 ton status

    Joined:
    Sep 19, 2002
    Posts:
    102
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Oregon
    We did disect one Wix. Great quality, silicone rubber anti drainback valve. Saw no problems with their design.
     
  4. chevydan3

    chevydan3 1/2 ton status

    Joined:
    Nov 27, 2004
    Posts:
    409
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Reno, Nevada
    Napa Gold, best filter around.
     
  5. TrcksR4ME

    TrcksR4ME 1/2 ton status

    Joined:
    Feb 11, 2002
    Posts:
    2,482
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Seattle, WA 98103
  6. TSGB

    TSGB 1 ton status

    Joined:
    Apr 22, 2002
    Posts:
    12,527
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Centralia, Washington
    I've ran Fram since they've had that grippy stuff on the ends... Maybe I'll go Napa from here on out...
     
  7. adamforsythe

    adamforsythe 1/2 ton status

    Joined:
    Oct 16, 2004
    Posts:
    1,394
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Maine
    Hello,
    That is what I will be running on my k5 in about 3 days.
    Thanks
    Adam

     
  8. Greg72

    Greg72 "Might As Well..." Staff Member Super Moderator

    Joined:
    Mar 5, 2001
    Posts:
    15,680
    Likes Received:
    1,391
    Location:
    642 Days to BB2018

    Maybe you could provide a little commentary about what is being shown in the pictures??

    I saw some loose filter material on one, but the rest just look like oily cut-up filters... I never looked inside a filter before, so I'm not sure what they are SUPPOSED to look like! :cool1:


    .
     
  9. folkenheath

    folkenheath Worthless Trash Premium Member GMOTM Winner

    Joined:
    Nov 12, 2004
    Posts:
    4,268
    Likes Received:
    159
    Location:
    Wisconsin
    You're right, FRAM sucks! I have a friend that works in a Dyno shop (he's about 60 years old and has been racing since he was young) and he was telling me that the fram filters can plug up, and in race engines with no oil bypass they lose oil pressure. But in a stock engine then you will just be bypassing the oil filter and not filtering anymore. Fram is horrible for this, he's seen it numorous times. He says they won't let customers use Fram filters on the dyno anymore. Good ole' AC Delco was one of the best filters that have used he said. They even recommend them on a lot of the race engines. I have never used anything but Delco. :)
     
  10. dyeager535

    dyeager535 1 ton status Premium Member

    Joined:
    Dec 13, 2000
    Posts:
    26,975
    Likes Received:
    189
    Location:
    Roy WA
    My dad runs a circle track car and they have no oil filter bypass either.

    Any filter "plugs up" and results in loss of oil pressure. They change the filter every night, and they run the gold napa filters. Towards the end of the evening, the difference in oil pressure is noticeable from when they start. I wouldn't blame that on Fram. If it came apart I would.

    Oil breakdown/heat is probably also an issue, pretty hard to measure/quantify this stuff though, at least at our level.
     
  11. Thunder

    Thunder 3/4 ton status

    Joined:
    Jul 20, 2000
    Posts:
    8,946
    Likes Received:
    1
    Location:
    Northeast Nevada
    I dont use fram because of some bad experiences I have personally had with them. I have had them fall apart like in the pics shown. And their anti drain back valves do not work. I have an oil cooler on my K5 Usually when I change a filter the oil in the cooler drains out when I remove the filter. Once I was pressed for time and had to do a quickie oil change before a trip. Closest store was K mart where I bought a fram. later when it was time to change the oil again I pulled the fram. Hardly any oil drained out when I unscrewed the filter. This was only a short time after I let the truck set to cool it down enough to change the oil. The POS Fram was letting all the oil in my system drain back to the crankcase giving me dry starts. I will never use a fram again those filters are painted Hazzard Orange for a reason.
    Even Cheapo Walmart Tec 2000 filters are built better than fram
     
  12. thfonz98

    thfonz98 1/2 ton status

    Joined:
    Feb 19, 2005
    Posts:
    319
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Salinas, ca
  13. 74Chev

    74Chev 1/2 ton status

    Joined:
    Sep 19, 2002
    Posts:
    102
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Oregon
    The cardboard/glue endcaps on both Frams were disentigrating and brittle with pieces missing. Note all of the holes in the media where it actually pushed through the center tube.

    Basically I was just trying to show the differences between the filters out there and that some of the big advertisers dont necessarily make the best filters.
     
  14. folkenheath

    folkenheath Worthless Trash Premium Member GMOTM Winner

    Joined:
    Nov 12, 2004
    Posts:
    4,268
    Likes Received:
    159
    Location:
    Wisconsin
    I know what you mean all oil filters can collect debris and get more restrictive. However, the fibers in the element of the Fram filter can block flow and cause 0 oil pressure on some even when they are brand new. They have had several brand new Fram filters have zero oil pressure on the dyno. They have NEVER had an AC Delco filter plug up, even after use. They have disected several kinds and Fram is poor quality and design. Fram is owned by Honeywell(Allied Signal), I work for Honeywell, and I still say don't use Fram filters. They are poor quality overadvertised junk.
     
  15. mini_mull

    mini_mull 1/2 ton status

    Joined:
    Jan 22, 2005
    Posts:
    1,198
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Queen Creek, AZ
    What do you guys think about the K&N oil filters? I know some people here don't like their air filters, but I haven't heard and commentary on the oil filters. I run it partly cause I like the wrench nut on the end, so I don't have to use one of those useless oil filter wrenches if it gets put on too tight.
     
  16. gjk5

    gjk5 3/4 ton status

    Joined:
    Mar 17, 2004
    Posts:
    5,312
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Grand Junction, CO


    That's what I put on last time, went to the Zone and saw that wrench nut and having just used the old BFH and screwdriver technique to remove the old one I went with the K&N for ease of removal more than anything.
     
  17. Can Can

    Can Can Pusher Man Staff Member Super Moderator

    Joined:
    Feb 17, 2000
    Posts:
    15,552
    Likes Received:
    136
    Location:
    Cochrane, Alberta, Canada
    I used to use Fram until a mechanic advised me that the valve tick I was hearing at startup was caused by the crummy Fram filters I was using. Heck, my engine used to tick for at least 5 seconds on every cold start up.

    Since that day I have I have run ACDelco filters exclusively on the truck. That was about 9 years ago, and I haven't had any cold-start valve tick since.
     
  18. 74Chev

    74Chev 1/2 ton status

    Joined:
    Sep 19, 2002
    Posts:
    102
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Oregon
    K & N does not make their oil filters. A company named Champion Laboratories does. They also make STP, Lee, Bosch, Motorcraft, Delco, Mobil 1 and many other private name label oil filters. The K & N oil filter is of excellent quality and is probably one of the best out there now that AC has shipped several of their part #'s off shore. The Mobil 1 is nearly identical to the K & N filter but uses a synthetic fiber filtering media, which is said to catch more particles. Either one would be a good choice and of course the Wix is a great filter, also sold as Napa gold.
     
  19. mini_mull

    mini_mull 1/2 ton status

    Joined:
    Jan 22, 2005
    Posts:
    1,198
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Queen Creek, AZ
    Wow, I did something right for once (even if it's just an oil filter), even without spending hours researching it first. :woot: Thanks for the info.
     
  20. tx_sub

    tx_sub 1/2 ton status

    Joined:
    Mar 5, 2004
    Posts:
    548
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Denton, TEXAS

Share This Page