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How much weight on the pintle hook

Discussion in 'Tow & Trailer' started by Ronnie4wd, Mar 28, 2006.

  1. Ronnie4wd

    Ronnie4wd 1/2 ton status GMOTM Winner

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    I am going to build a offroad campingtrailer and will be using a C-20 from 79 and a small camper.
    The C-20 will have no engine,trans,front axle or front at all.
    It will be cut by the firewall.
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    The camper weighs about 400 lbs.
    I think the weight on the pintle will be about 1500 lbs :crazy:
    How much could you load on a m1008 pintle:dunno:
     
  2. 88sub4x4

    88sub4x4 1/2 ton status

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    I'm not sure if I understand you. You are going to take the rig in the pic and cut off the nose, weld up a tonge with a pintle hook, and tow it around like a camper?
     
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    Tech manuals say 1200 lbs, 100lb tongue wt. or 3100lbs weight with a 300lbs tongue wt. These are with mil trailers though. I wouldnt exceed 800ish pounds tongue wt.

    (If you are towing an aircraft, dont exceed 15000lbs, or 5mph or as fast as your slowest wing walker:haha: )
     
  4. Ronnie4wd

    Ronnie4wd 1/2 ton status GMOTM Winner

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    No just the camper in the pic the truck in the pic is my "towrig":wink1:
    I will cut a C-20 from 79 wich means a 2wd 3/4 ton from 1979 and put the camper on that C-20 and tow it with my m1008 who is under the camper in the pic.
    But if the tongue wt. max is 100 lbs I think I will have to move the rear axle forward on the C-20.
    Or maybe I´ll have to tow the complete C-20 with a towbar.
    The downside of the towbar is that I´m not able to reverse it on my own.
     
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    Why not just make a pickup bed trailer with the camper in it? Why do you want the cab section? For more storage space? I agree the axle would need to be moved forward to reduce tongue weight.
     
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    Ronnie4wd 1/2 ton status GMOTM Winner

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    :thinking: :thinking: :thinking:
    Thats a good thought because I will not need the cab only need room for lots of beer and somewhere to sleep and some tools
     
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    Ronnie4wd 1/2 ton status GMOTM Winner

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    And the most important thing is that my trailer will have a 14bff and big tires:haha: :haha: :haha:
     
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    During my time in the Air Force, I towed quite a bit of equipment on the flightline using a pintle hook. I don't remember a single piece of equipment that had much tongue weight. Either they were balanced (aircraft towbars) or the towing device on the equipment was hinged keeping the weight on its wheels.

    I also remember strictly enforced limits on the number of pieces we were allowed to hook together in a train.

    One additional thought is that flightline speeds are very slow, 15 MPH normal, some equipment was 5 MPH.

    Even at those speeds, some equipment didn't follow that well and occillated back and forth.

    Also, unless there is an additional pivot, you can exceed the designed limit of side angle. In the cases I witnessed, that resulted in the ring twisting off the equipment.

    I would seriously consider using a standard ball style trailer hitch designed for your intended load.
     
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    To build on this thought a bit.........I think he wants the pintle so he can tow off road and have better flex then the standard trailer ball. I don't know what the factory pintle hitch is attached to. I have never been close enought to look underneath so I don't know how sturdy it is. If there is not much strength to it, you could always install a class V 2" reciever hitch and use a pintle designed to insert into the 2" reciever. The class V hitches usually handle 1000-1200 lbs of tongue weight, compared to a class III with only 500lbs. tongue rating.
     
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    I've jerked the **** out of my pintle hook with no brakey:bow: I've been jerked so hard that my frame is now treaked and broke a military shackle in half one time too. Both times I was using the pintle. Hope that helps (i never actually towed with the pintle so I dont know how much weight it will handle that way)

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    Thanks for all the answers.
    Just because it´s the least work it will be the towbar way this summer and maybe cut it down a little next year.
    And we are going to use the whole engine compartment as a beer cooler:wink1: with lots of ice and beer and a couple of bottles Jägermeister.
     
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    A pintle is usually up to more weight than a ball. You'll tear the frame or hitch off before you break the pintle. I bent the frame and hitch on the back of my 1998 2500 cummins xcab 4x4 longbed dodge with a pintle hitch similar to a CUCV hitch. I'd still leave the cab off. Leave the fram lond and put a big cooler on the tonge, the cab and all is prolly too much tongue weight in that it'll make the truck wanna jackknife at speed.
     
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    So this is what happened this week:



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    The cab were so rusty I couldn´t use it.
     
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    My gears are turning! That is exactly what Im looking for!! Great job!!
     
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    Looks great.


    and the weight rating you were asking about, all depends on the size of pintle you've got. Just like anything else, size matters. I've got an 8 ton ring in my garage for a pintle hitch, it's just that my hook buggered off on a dump truck at some point.
     
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    Looks nice!
     
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    This is what happened this weekend new paint and 36" hummer tires.
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    Nice job! Cool looking setup
     

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