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How to get carrier out of 14bff??

Discussion in 'The Garage' started by 85mudblazin, Sep 7, 2004.

  1. 85mudblazin

    85mudblazin 1/2 ton status

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    I started to take out the carrier so that I can install my detroit and 4.88 gears and I took out the pinion gear and took off those little u things that go over the bearings and pulled the axxle shafts, it only moves about 1/8th inch then stops, what am I doing wrong???
    Thanks
    -Chris
     
  2. cybrfire

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    remove u thingies then remove bearing caps. Now turn those rings with the holes outward to give the carrier and bearings room to come out. If you want to put it back where it was mark the rings with the holes and count your turns.
     
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    did you pull the axles out?
    never mind i can't read /forums/images/graemlins/doah.gif /forums/images/graemlins/doah.gif
     
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    are you talking about that little thing with the holes in it that sits next to the bearings?
     
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    Yes, those are the adjusting collars. Loosen each one of them about two turns and the carrier will fall out.
     
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    do I just stick something in the holes and turn it?
     
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    nvm I got it out thanks yall, I didnt mark it, should I have since I am putting a detroit in??
    Hope I didnt mess it up by not.
     
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    If you're changing gears there's no reason to mark it, you're going to have to set them up anyway.
     
  9. 85mudblazin

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    Thats what I was thinking, Thanks for the help. /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif
     
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    You kinda messed it up. The gears are set to a pattern when first installed and they harden to that pattern. By not marking your spanner nuts you have no way of getting it back to the exact pattern. That said you will probably be ok if you just adjust it until you have the specified backlash ( .005 to .012" if I recall right). If you don't have a way to measure backlash (height gauge on a magnetic base) you probably should invest in it or find a freind with one to borrow.
    If you back out to the tech section of this site their is directions for setting R&P on the 14bolt. You are basically setting backlash as they instruct at this point.
     
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    He's installing new gears. There is no wear pattern to worry about. He's good to go.
     
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    Ooppss, if you are setting new gears also then scratch the above.
     
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    I am having a friend help me since I have never done it before and he has, he also has all the tools so I hope I can learn from watching him.
     
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    You marked the caps right? /forums/images/graemlins/whistling.gif
     
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    [ QUOTE ]
    You marked the caps right? /forums/images/graemlins/whistling.gif

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    I hope so.
     
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    WTF WHAT DID I NEED TO MARK??
     
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    I DIDNT MARK ANYTHING!!!!!
     
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    you should put them back on the same way they came off. If you mixed them up like I've done, try matching up the wear marks from cap to the housing. I was able to easily match them back up the way the needed to go that way. /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif
     
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    im replacing all the bearings in the carrier so what do I have to do??
     
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    I'm referring to the two u-shaped caps (bearing cap) retained by two bolts each. They are what hold your carrier assembly securely in place. These caps should go on the same way that they came off. Hold a bearing cap up to one of the mounting positions and compare the wear pattern. Look for subtle scratches or wear marks that run from the adjacent bearing surface on the housing to the cap. Look at where the edge of the bearing outer race once rode. There should be a subtle ridge running all the way around the housing and cap. Match that up to on of the caps and you’re all set…

    Okay... good night guys... I'm going to bed... yyyaaaawwwwwnn.....
     

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