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hurst or b&m which shift kit is best

Discussion in '1973-1991 K5 Blazer | Truck | Suburban' started by xnoahx, Jun 12, 2001.

  1. xnoahx

    xnoahx 1/2 ton status

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    Ok, i plan on putting in a stage 2 kit to firm up my TH350 but i was wondering which is better, i have searched the board and couldnt find very many specifics. So, which ones are you guys running? Heard anything bad about either kit?

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    I would go with the B&M. I have instaled 2 of them (700r4 & th350). The instructions were well writen (which is what most of the kit is along with a drill bit and some spacers) which makes doing the install not to hard. However I would go with the 1st stage (heave duty/towing) and not the 2nd. I have a second stage in my s-10 and my blazer (The kit was in the blazer when I bought it). If I had it to do over again I would put the 1st stage. With the second stage bolts fall out of everything (have LOST 6 in the s-10 and 1 in the blazer), it brakes traction when shifting (sucks on a freeway on ramp and offroad), and just gets old after a few years.

    '71 Blazer CST with alot of rust
     
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    I favor the B&M myself, I've got the Stage 1 in my K5 and love it.

    I'm so poor I can't even pay attention [​IMG]
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  4. Gandolf

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    I have the B&M stage 1 in my 700R4, and I have no complaints.

    Does Hurst make shift kits? I thought they only made shifters for manual transmissions.


    '89 K5 Silverado..."You can’t have a real adventure, unless the outcome is truly uncertain".
     
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    I would use the B&M stage 1, not the stage 2. I had the stage 2 in my S-10 and I had a hard time keeping it straight when it would shift. The tires would just spend. Of course having a posi with 456 gears and a small block stroker in it I am sure had something to do with it also, but didn't have the problems until I put the shift kit in.
     
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    Neither. Go TransGo. My trans mechanic (who does it all day long, for many years now) recommended it. Showed me the two kits. Lots more to TransGo, looks far more complete/thought out. Went Stage 2 in my TH400 (then modified it *grin*).

    --Rob
     
  7. 90blzr

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    Can you put a shift kit in a used tranny? I mean I know you "can" but I heard that it is not recommended to put one in unless the tranny is freshly rebuilt. I told them that I had about 90,000 on my R4 and they said that was pushing it to install one with that many miles. Any input on this??
     
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    Absolutely. Every serious tranny shop I know of, and builders as well, use Trans-Go. They actually fix pre-existing problems, not cover them up. I've used them in TH400's and 200-4R's, and they are EXCELLENT. I tried a B&M th350 kit awhile back, and although I'm no expert, I'm no novice, and the instructions were IMPOSSIBLE to read for one piece. Ended up pulling the valve body back off to fix it.

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  9. 90blzr

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    So you think it would be a good idea huh? What would be the advantages? This is my first automatic, so I'm not to familiar with them yet. I've heard LOTS of good things about the TransGo kits. How hard are they to install? Does a tranny shop have to do it or can I do it in my driveway?
     
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    It wil help your trany last longer because it elminates the overlapand sliping of the clutches that make the shift smooth. You can do it in your driveway. The pan and valve body are all that has to be removed. You than drill some holes and install some spacers and that is it. Just make sure it is CLEAN.

    '71 Blazer CST with alot of rust
     
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    I too, would go with the Trans Go shift kit. I used one in a TH350 that was seriously abused behind a 400 sb in a 3/4 ton fulltime 4x4, and it has held up better than any automatic I have ever seen. Two thumbs up! [​IMG]

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    Go with TCI shift kits and be done with it for good. Summit and Jegs both sell them.

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    I've run the B&M stage two, that suckers mean! Tire barking, U-joint snapping, Axle shaft brakeing mean! I think I'd try the stage one kit next time! (on a blazer/truck)

    But; If Dorian (deayger456895) recomends the Trans-Go-Kit, thats the one I'm going with next time! (Just cause this guy knows his stuff! Yery impressed)

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    i have had a B&M stage 2 in my blazer before. the spacer went out and caused the clutchec to lock up way to fast and break my output shaft. that is what the shop told me. i didnt install it. i saw all the parts and they were messed up. it lasted 3 years of abbuse though.

    Now i have a Trans go stage 2 and i like it alot better. the govoner has been changed to lengthen my 1st and 2nd gears too... but anyway for the th350 i would go with trans go....
    no problems with mine...

    1974 Chevy Blazer Cheyanne. lots of plans for it....
    but it is on 33's now, with saggy old springs. i am in so cali if ya got any parts for me.
     
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    i've got ie 93k on my 700 so if i was to put a Trans-Go-Kit or a B&M in then i should i have the trany re-built????????

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    I am wondering the same. Everyone says yeah go for it on the TH350 and Th400 but what about the 700R4?

    Wes- what do you like better about the TCI kits than the transgo? thanks
     
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    I have a b&m stage two in my th350 in my nova. It is sweet. Burns them when the gears shift. It added a lot of life to my old th350.
    eric

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    I personally like the TCI or Gil Younder shift kits. I don't care for B&M products much at all... never seen a Hurst shift kit. Trans-go kits are pretty good... I just think the TCI ones are a bit better and do more. Even a stage II trango kit doesn't shift hard enough for my cars usually so that is why I stopped using them. BTW.... shift kits are a no no in 700's... long story I have written out too many times before. Check the archives.

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    Just getting a rebuild on a 700R4 - or probably any tranny - makes a big difference. I drove a friend's truck before and after a rebuild and it was a huge improvement.

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    I properly done rebuild will do all you need to firm things up. Usually the modify the 2nd gear to release quicker and third to shift in quicker to prevent the burned 3/4 ... man also switch to a stiffer spring for 1st which will keep it from shifting into second so early which man early 700's had issues with.

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