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I am becoming a minority because I like a full bodied truck.

Discussion in 'The Garage' started by four_by_ken, Jul 11, 2003.

  1. four_by_ken

    four_by_ken 1/2 ton status

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    The rock buggies are real cool and all, purpose built. But, I am starting to see people with no need at all, hack the living sheet out of their truck?!?

    And what is it with some people thinking dents make you a hardcore wheeler and a true truck?!?!

    Ken H.
     
  2. Greg72

    Greg72 "Might As Well..." Staff Member Super Moderator

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    Is that a Volkswagen in your avitar?

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  3. four_by_ken

    four_by_ken 1/2 ton status

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    Yeah... I just put that up like 2 minutes ago. I noticed that I had a red x... and that was the only picture I have here at work. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

    Ken H.
     
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    Pookster 1/2 ton status

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    What are you talking about? Nuttin wrong with an un-scarred full figured woman. I dont like this whole trend toward nips, tucks, and weight reduction. I think it reduces the essence of the woman, er.. truck. /forums/images/graemlins/rotfl.gif

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    The rock buggies are real cool and all, purpose built. But, I am starting to see people with no need at all, hack the living sheet out of their truck?!?

    And what is it with some people thinking dents make you a hardcore wheeler and a true truck?!?!

    Ken H.



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  5. tRustyK5

    tRustyK5 Big meanie Staff Member Super Moderator GMOTM Winner Author

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    But, I am starting to see people with no need at all, hack the living sheet out of their truck?!?

    And what is it with some people thinking dents make you a hardcore wheeler and a true truck?!?!

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    I am not sure I can accurately look at someone else's truck and tell 100% for sure whether the need to hack is there or not...how do I know how they use their truck? How do I know for sure how well it flex's? Who am I to say what someone else does to their truck?

    Yeah, my truck is pretty hacked for lack of a better term...oh yeah I have some dents too. About half the time I wheel I pick up a little bit of damage...some trips more than others. Sometimes I even fix the damage. The truck is hacked so I can run 39.5's with 5" of lift and not cut the tires up or create more dents. BFD...

    I don't consider myself or my truck to be hardcore, but those are the choices I made for how I use my truck. Whether you or anyone else likes it doesn't really matter...it's my truck.

    Rene
     
  6. four_by_ken

    four_by_ken 1/2 ton status

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    Damn, did I rattle your feathers here? All I am saying is that there are people that take pride in beating there body up, like a trophy.

    I guess I was just lookig at the trend of all the rick buggies that are becomign populat, and then looked at the full bodied Blazers. I would take the red Blazer on the cover of Peterson's any day over some of these tube creations.

    Ken H.



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    Who am I to say what someone else does to their truck?


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    I never said anything about what you or someone else should or shouldnt do to your truck. Jeez.

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    Yeah, my truck is pretty hacked for lack of a better term...oh yeah I have some dents too. About half the time I wheel I pick up a little bit of damage...some trips more than others. Sometimes I even fix the damage. The truck is hacked so I can run 39.5's with 5" of lift and not cut the tires up or create more dents. BFD...

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    I have dents in mine too... and I have trimmed fenders also. 44s with 6 inch suspension and 2 inch body lift. Had to make them fit. SO BFD deal right back at you.

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    Whether you or anyone else likes it doesn't really matter...it's my truck.


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    Yup, sure is your truck. And I do like it. So, take that!!!! /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif

    Ken H.
     
  7. gravdigr

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    Does it not take more skill to wheel a blazer and not dent it than to have "trophy dents"?

    /jk

    I will be running a full bodied blazer once it is finished. Only hacking is some slight front fender trimming and I eliminated the rockers because they were rusted and ugly. I think it takes more for someone to run a full bodied 3 ton beast than a hacked tube frame buggy, they just don't impress me.
     
  8. willyswanter

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    It's all about how hardcore of stuff you want to do... You could be the most skilled driver in the world and not get through some trails without body damage... I mean there are trails where you have to drag the side of the truck along the wall to get through... If you are happy just hitting mud puddles and regular trails then you can have a full body non hacked body and be good with it. If you plan on running the Hammers and Moab all the time then it just aint gonna be purty on the way out /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif. Well, it's pretty to me...

    This is a beautiful creation to me:

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    And I've touched it /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif
     
  9. Calclips

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    I'm with ya', I like the trucks with full bodies more than I do the cut up rock crawlers... but I have no need to hack my truck to pieces here in Michigan... just like people in Arizona don't have a need to hang a flap of rubber in front of their truck to keep the mud from building up. Its all about where and how you wheel.
     
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    And I've touched it

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    i hope you're talking about the truck /forums/images/graemlins/rotfl.gif
     
  11. willyswanter

    willyswanter 1/2 ton status GMOTM Winner

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    The truck... And Doc Watson

    Well, I shook his hand /forums/images/graemlins/rotfl.gif
     
  12. jhrody

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    The rock buggies are real cool and all, purpose built. But, I am starting to see people with no need at all, hack the living sheet out of their truck?!?

    And what is it with some people thinking dents make you a hardcore wheeler and a true truck?!?!

    Ken H.



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    i cant stand the shiznit that you mention........in other words i agree with you!
     
  13. Moose

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    I agree I think a full beutiful truck is gorgeous. Thats why I have a truck strickly for desert racing. Rock Crawling is a little slow for me. People should do what makes them happy. /forums/images/graemlins/usaflag.gif /forums/images/graemlins/burb.gif
     
  14. tRustyK5

    tRustyK5 Big meanie Staff Member Super Moderator GMOTM Winner Author

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    Damn, did I rattle your feathers here? All I am saying is that there are people that take pride in beating there body up, like a trophy.

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    I guess you hit a nerve, or I'm misunderstanding exactly what you don't like about other peoples trucks/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif I may not care to build my truck like a lot of mud trucks I see, or like some show trucks I see, but I also don't start a post bashing them either.

    FWIW I do not consider dents to be trophey's, but they do happen and when they do it's not that big a deal. I wouldn't willingly open up the side of my truck on a rock if I can avoid it...

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    I have dents in mine too... and I have trimmed fenders also. 44s with 6 inch suspension and 2 inch body lift. Had to make them fit. SO BFD deal right back at you.


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    How hacked is too hacked in your opinion?

    I like a full bodied truck, but I also like the reshaped and enlarged wheel openings that help me keep the C of G down.

    What I do like is all the different ways these trucks get built and used. Whether it's to my liking is irrelevant, there is a lot of creativity and hard work going into these trucks and I can appreciate all of that.

    Where do we draw a line that defines the difference between "trimmed and used off road" and "hacked and no longer a full bodies rig"? /forums/images/graemlins/thinking.gif

    My new front fenders are trimmed so much I'm into my marker light up front and have to modify the core support some. My inner fenders are much smaller than they once were and until I bolt them up I won't be sure I can run them without more mods... The rear is opened up enough for 42's and nicely radiused. I have box tube for rockers.

    I have not bobbed the rear, or pinched the front and still run the stock frame. It's a fuzzy line...

    Keeping the ridiculous amount of sheet metal that GM originally hung on the truck just isn't an option though.

    As far as the buggies are concerned my view is that they are cool...when they are built from scratch. For some that isn't an option and they lay the foundation for their buggy with a K5 body and frame and build from there. It's also cool, but in some ways it's a bit of a shame. I can see the reasoning behind that though.

    Enough rambling. The true minority on this site is the guy with a dead stock K5 restored to pristine condition. All the sheet metal, no rust, all the trim and goo-gaws that work (the frilly crap like windows...LOL) 10 bolts, a working 700R-4 (very rare...) carpet, GM floor mats, you get the idea.

    Rene
     
  15. 89GMCSuburban

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    All sheet metal with no rust...check
    All the trim...check
    Goo-gaws that work...check
    10 bolts...check
    A working 700r4...check (Went 190,000 or so before needing a rebuild)
    Carpet...check
    GM Floor mats...check

    Well, I guess I'm a minority!

    TRusty, he's stating about people who do it even though they don't have to. You did it for wheeling purposes, not for mall-cruising, so I don't think he was talking about you. I figured he had the right to state his opinion...

    I agree, I like the way the full-bodies look, but for true hardcore crawling, chopping it up loses weight and gives better angles all around. Dr. Watson's Jimmy is the perfect example...it was chopped for function.
     
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    It's all pretty simple really. A person has a truck that they paid for, so it's THEIRS. They do whatever they want to it, cause it's nobody else's say so. What do you want? Socialism of the 4x4 community? Let's lay down some rules in concrete so everyone must conform to the norm and no creative ideas get put into place. I've had a pretty hacked up truck and now I have a nice looking one. They both have their place. My former truck was right for me then and this one is right for me now. But really, that's nobody's business but mine and until they start chipping in some cash to my build they can GF themselves.

    Bryan
     
  17. Storm Trooper

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    OK, I've got to get into this one too.
    I also have to agree that I hate to see a nice truck get the snot beat out of it, cut and chopped for no real reason.
    I have a Full Size and yes it is cut in the wheel wells to fit my tires, yes it is cut in the rear quarters to fit my bumper supports but it still looks like a Blazer and will stay that way if I can.
    I also wheel rocks and go to MOAB every chance I get!
    Some may even call me a whus because I WON'T do trails that are postive body damage trails but let them.
    To me, it's a matter of trying my best to keep my truck in one peice and looking good. Sure, things happen, dents, scratches etc. but I try to avoid them if possible. Why do you think I spend all that money on body armor?
    If you start with a peice of junk then why not beat it somemore but if you start out with a nice truck, why not try to keep it nice?
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    Nothing againt someone that really wants or has built a buggy but it seems to be a progression of the following:
    Start with a sweet K5 /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif
    Wheel it and get a few scatches & dents /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif
    Smack it hard one time and start not to care /forums/images/graemlins/eek.gif
    Now that it has some dents, take the harder trails that beat it more /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
    Start hacking it because you obviously need the clearance /forums/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif
    Get out of control so it no longer looks like a K5, now turn it into a buggy and start over /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif.
    Now, for those who get serious about competing in events and know that the damage will happen, do what you need to do! It's part of the game but at least try to keep some sheet metal on it so we can tell what it use to be (if you can).
    Maybe I'm wrong here and someone that has a buggy can tell me the history about how it came to be but that is what I have seen.
    I know I will try my best to keep my Full size just that (A Full Size). /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif
    Keeping your truck in good shape, having fun, wheelin hard not only takes hard work and good driving skills but also takes common sence.
    A truck with dents all over it doesn't impress me. Pictures of someone wheelin the hard stuff with NO body damage does impress me.
    Sorry guys. just my opinion /forums/images/graemlins/ignore.gif /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
     
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    cybrfire 1 ton status Vendor GMOTM Winner

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    To some the full bodied truck is a work of art. To some it is simply a blank canvas on which to express yourself. So no matter what you like or what anybody likes this is our sport and all will be different. ART is just that.
     
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    I think Mr Watson should have built a buggy and left the K5 as a truck.
    he ruined a good vehicle to make a toy
    of course going that route his ride is full of compromises that could have been avoided going 'clean sheet'

    I vote full bodied
    I am not a fan of butchered either
    I have yet to see a nice 'fender trim' job
     
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    I think people should be able to do w/e they want with their truck. Its theirs! Why should they have to have you guys getting mad at them for doing what they wanted with their own truck built with their own hard-earned money. I say, if you have to hack your rig to fit those sweet 35's then do it!
     

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