I killed a car with my \'87 K5 today... We were leaving work, and my apprentice was in front of me at the stop sign waiting to pull out. He went forward a little, and I thought he was going...I looked left and pulled forward to close the gap to the stop sign.....'cept there wasn't a gap. /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif He was driving a '90 Buick 4 door...totally collapsed his trunk, started buckling one of the roof pillars and creased the other one, his back door doesn't close good now. Scratched the rubber on my bumper guard. That's it /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif I told him that's what he gets for being a smart-ass to me at work all day today /forums/images/graemlins/rotfl.gif thankfully he wasn't hurt.