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i'm retarded help me

Discussion in 'The Garage' started by muddysub, Dec 30, 2002.

  1. muddysub

    muddysub 1 ton suburban status Staff Member Moderator GMOTM Winner

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    i\'m retarded help me

    i can't get the drums off my new (to me)14bff i removed the axle shafts and got to tuggin on the drums and they don't move.
     
  2. chevyfumes

    chevyfumes Court jester

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    Rusted on..... /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
     
  3. Shaggy

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    <font color="green"> Errrr, unless you have one of the later 14 bolts, the drum is pressed onto the back of the hub, you need to pull the whole hub off the axle in order to get the drum off. </font color>
     
  4. bryguy00b

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    hehe yeap...same with the drum on my rear 10 bolt...me and my dad tryed to check the brakes on it..could not get the drum of..even used a torch..we gave up and threw the wheel back on..the front two were good..and the rear driver side were fine..so we didnt bother with it/.. /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
     
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    Re: i\'m retarded help me

    I like it when people admit there dumb...

    did ya pull the axles... /forums/images/graemlins/rotfl.gif /forums/images/graemlins/rotfl.gif /forums/images/graemlins/rotfl.gif /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif
     
  6. muddysub

    muddysub 1 ton suburban status Staff Member Moderator GMOTM Winner

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    are they rusted on if they spin really easy?
     
  7. chevyfumes

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    Well you mentioned retarded , so I showed up with an opinion.... /forums/images/graemlins/1zhelp.gif
     
  8. Seventy4Blazer

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    Re: i\'m retarded help me

    you have to remove the hub. then press out the studs. to remove the drum. to do the brakes you can leave the hub on and have them turned that way, and do yer business then replace them.
    Grant
     
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    beat on it /forums/images/graemlins/rotfl.gif, mine were rusted on my 10 bolt, before it blew up, but i just beat on them and eventually they came off with alot of beating and penetrant lube, that was a good combo. /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif

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  10. muddysub

    muddysub 1 ton suburban status Staff Member Moderator GMOTM Winner

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    10 and 14s are a world of difference. 10 are semi floating and my 14 is a full floater.
     
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    i couldnt get mine of even with a torch!!?? lol..
     
  12. HarryH3

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    Re: i\'m retarded help me

    You have to first remove the outer wheel bearing, then the entire hub and drum assembly will slide off the spindle easily. /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif Welcome to the world of full floaters! /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif

    Oh yeah, be careful that you don't drop it on your toes as it slides off. Those things are HEAVY! /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
     
  13. Shaggy

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    <font color="green"> You'd have to beat on a 14b drum for a long time with a REALLY big hammer in order to get it off without pulling the whole hub/drum assembly off. /forums/images/graemlins/eek.gif </font color>
     
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    or just push it off the hub and let it ride on the axle housing, it will act like one of those bell things on the trash trucks when they back up.... /forums/images/graemlins/rotfl.gif
     
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    <font color="green"> I think you'd still need the big hammer to squeeze the drum over the backing plate. /forums/images/graemlins/eek.gif </font color>
     
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    Re: i\'m retarded help me

    Did you take off the two nuts? You need that six pin socket dealy, like the ones on the front spindle. Like they said, the whole hub has to come off. Or you could just give it too me cause your just too frustrated to look at it anymore. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
     
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    I love how people are telling you to remove the axle shafts when you allready said you did, asses, listen, if you allready got the 2 spindle nuts inside then just use a screwdriver to UNADJUST them smaller and itll let loose, and ignore my fellow HACKERS above /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif it is just because you have a tiny lip in the way from wear,

    and if all else fails, in the back of the backing plate, cut / grind off the ears that hold the shoe pins to the backing plate, itll all come off easy then.






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    <font color="green"> Wha? Hackers? I think people were telling him to remove the hubs, not the shafts. /forums/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif </font color>
     
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    I /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif /forums/images/graemlins/burb.giff the lock nut and ring clip thingy are off it should come off but that would be too easy. so get a BFH and a beer or mountan dew and start whacking.
    Btw, mine took about 6 hrs but it even spin good luck
     
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    Re: i\'m retarded help me

    I had the same problem when I tried to remove my 14 bolt's drums so I could put disc brakes on.
    One drum came off easily. The other was frozen on there.
    I ended up getting very frustrated and hooking a chain up on one side to the drum and on the other side to my other truck /forums/images/graemlins/ooo.gif
    Really, I'm not kidding, I did that and even then it still took some decent gas pedal to pull the damn thing off. Not surpisingly, I managed to mangle some of the innards of the drum brake setup (it turns out the wheel cyclinder was frozen solid pressing the shoes against the drum face w/ pressure.) That didn't matter to me since I had the discs to put on anyway.
    -- Mike
     

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