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Is it time for a speedy sleeve?(PIC'S)

Discussion in 'The Garage' started by BobK, Jun 16, 2004.

  1. BobK

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    Is it time for a speedy sleeve?(PIC\'S)

    I'm in the process of semi rebuilding my Dana 44 on my 71 Blazer.
    Took the drivers shaft out to do the U-joints to find a nice groove where the seal seats.I knew something was up as I had gear oil on my bottom ball-joint.
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    Also can any-one tell me what the numbers on the ring are.
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    Thanks.
     
  2. Ryan B.

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    Re: Is it time for a speedy sleeve?(PIC\'S)

    2 24 77- The gears were made on Feb. 24th 1977
    41 11- 41/11= 3.73 gearset. Count the teeth on the pinion to double check there are 11. I remember Rod (savage1) thought he had 4.10's because the Ring gear was stamped with 41 10, but when he pulled it apart he found 11 pinion teeth, meaning someone only changed the pinion and it was now 3.73's. /forums/images/graemlins/thinking.gif
     
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    Re: Is it time for a speedy sleeve?(PIC\'S)

    i would say it is, is that the axle shaft?

    the numbers on the ring gear,
    1st pic shows the date, feburary 24 1977
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    3rd gear ratio= 3.73
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  4. BobK

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    Re: Is it time for a speedy sleeve?(PIC\'S)

    Oh ya,...does any one know where to get hub O-rings.
    I've got a set of Mile Marker hubs and one of the O-rings is missing from the outer cap.
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    It would be for the 1st groove from the bottom of the pic.
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  5. Ryan B.

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    Re: Is it time for a speedy sleeve?(PIC\'S)

    I lost one of those o rings for my warn hubs, the o ring looks the same. I called the 1-800 number and told them... I had a pack of 2 in my mailbox a couple days later... FREE! /forums/images/graemlins/peace.gif
     
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    Re: Is it time for a speedy sleeve?(PIC\'S)

    Ryan,thanks man.jeez that was fast you guys!
    Those pic's are of the axle part that slides into the 3rd member.
    I may put in a locker sometime in the future and didn't want to pull the gears twice,that's why I thought a speedy sleeve.
    I don't have a diff. spreader and don't have time to do it before Blazer-Fest anyway.

    I just checked the pinion...and yes it has 11 teeth.
     
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    Re: Is it time for a speedy sleeve?(PIC\'S)

    Ryan, he is correct on the seal. The first picture is the axleshaft not the spindle.

    Any idea on how to get an o-ring from Spicer? /forums/images/graemlins/dunno.gif
     
  8. Ryan B.

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    Re: Is it time for a speedy sleeve?(PIC\'S)

    Ah i see now... That first picture totally looked like a spindle.

    Anyways, you don't need a case spreader. With the carrier caps removed, Get a box end wrench and put it on a ring gear bolt. Now spin the yoke until that box end wrench wedges against the bottom of the housing. Using a big crecent wrench or a big socket on the pinion, spin it a little more and the gear mesh will walk the carrier out of the housing.. Just be sure to have someone catch it or build a mound of pillows and blankets like willyswanter. /forums/images/graemlins/peace.gif A soft mallet should walk the carrier back into the housing as long as you get it going in straight..
    If you find those seals they take 5 minutes each to change. The chevy dealership has nice factory seals with metal reinforcement instead of cheapy plastic aftermarket seals.
    The shims are between the bearings and the carrier so since you shouldn't have to keep track of the shims when it falls out, it should go back together like cake. /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif
    I rebuilt a whole D44 for a friend in one evening after work. /forums/images/graemlins/waytogo.gif
     
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    Re: Is it time for a speedy sleeve?(PIC\'S)

    Holy crap Ryan...you da man!
    I just went out and did as you said and POW...out it came,NO PROBLEM! /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif
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    You wouldn't know what the thing on the right is would you?It was in the drivers axle tube,right where the seal was.
    An old speedy sleeve maybe?
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    kinda looks like some kind of a race.
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    I just ordered my seals from Chevy
     
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    Re: Is it time for a speedy sleeve?(PIC\'S)

    HAHA thats one way to get the carrier out, prybars are a lot easier.

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    I just went out and did as you said and POW...out it came,NO PROBLEM! /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif


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    Thats not good, it should have some preload to the carrier.
     
  11. Ryan B.

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    Re: Is it time for a speedy sleeve?(PIC\'S)

    Right on Bob. /forums/images/graemlins/peace.gif /forums/images/graemlins/pimp1.gif

    I've tried the prybar method, and a few other ways...
    This was by far the easiest way to get out a carrier even when its being stubborn and in there tight. /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif
     
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    OH, I get em out with prybars everyday, never had a problem. Guess yours werent big enough! /forums/images/graemlins/peace.gif
     
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    Re: Is it time for a speedy sleeve?(PIC\'S)

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    I remember Rod (savage1) thought he had 4.10's because the Ring gear was stamped with 41 10, but when he pulled it apart he found 11 pinion teeth, meaning someone only changed the pinion and it was now 3.73's. /forums/images/graemlins/thinking.gif

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    Theres somthiong I never thought of. I didnt know that you could do that. Learn somthing new every day.
     
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    Re: Is it time for a speedy sleeve?(PIC\'S)

    You know...I don't even own a prybar /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif

    There was preload on it.I tried getting it out with a breaker bar 1st....nothin.

    Then I tried Ryans little trick.Once it cleared the pinion it took a little muscle,but it came out /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif

    Hey Ryan or anyone else,were there 2 different styles of Dana 44's.I ask as the drivers u-joint+caps are bigger than the passenger side.The shaft it's self is bigger as well(diameter).
    What's up with that?

    here you can see the bottom one is bigger.That's the new u-joint in both the shafts.
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    The diameter of the long one is more than the smaller one.

    The stub shafts have different sealing ends to them as well.
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    Re: Is it time for a speedy sleeve?(PIC\'S)

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    Hey Ryan or anyone else,were there 2 different styles of Dana 44's.I ask as the drivers u-joint+caps are bigger than the passenger side.The shaft it's self is bigger as well(diameter).
    What's up with that?

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    Bob....I noticed in your first pics that you hade both an early and late D44 axleshafts. When I took out my original '71 D44 and compared it to the '77 D44 that I was putting in, I noticed a bunch of differences. Check out some pics here.

    Are both spindles the same? The early and late D44's used a different seal system to seal the stub shafts to spindle.

    Your original D44 uses 260x u-joints whereas that later axle shaft uses the larger 297x u-joint. /forums/images/graemlins/waytogo.gif
     
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    Beast,I just included some pic's of what you described.

    looks like a PO replaces the gears and one of the shafts from a 77 Dana 44.
     
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    looks like the PO wheeled my blazer hard enough to break the gears and one of the shafts.

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