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Is this 14bff a gov lock?

Discussion in 'The Garage' started by socal chevy, Dec 12, 2004.

  1. socal chevy

    socal chevy 1/2 ton status

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    links dont work,
    but if it has 3 "pins" in the carrier, then its a gov-lock
    if it has 4, then its open
    the "pins" are about 3/4" in diameter, and just a little behind the ring gear
     
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    looks like a gov-lock to me
     
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    So whats the differences in a gov lock and another 14b???
     
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    readymix 3/4 ton status

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    The carrier is different. See above post.

    The gov-lock is not really designed for hard off road use. It will break. I can post pics of a broken GL if you would like to see.

    The 14FF gov-lock is stronger than the one in a 10 bolt but i have no idea how muck stronger.
     
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    sure post it. I need a FOR SURE answer if this is a gov lock!
     
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    Here is what the broken pieces will look like. This is from a 10 bolt. If you want to know for sure if it is a Gov-Lock then count the cross pins on the carrier.
    3= Gov-Lock
    4= Detroit (or) Open carrier. most likely open
    [​IMG]
     
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    hi, I recently asked this question also. Your carrier is a gov-lock carrier, I am sorry to say. Here is a link to the thread where I asked.

    http://coloradok5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=122279

    EDIT: oops, in the link I am asking about afactory 14 bolt detroit locker...but stallion85 posted pics of his gov-lock, and I have 2 links to pics of a carrier I believe has a detroit in it, which is just an open carrier with the spiders removed and the detroit installed. yours is definitely the gov-lock with no little holes to see the spiders thru. :(
     
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    i dont know what a carrier is
     
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    ok, a quick answer would be the metal chunk inside an axle centersection that the ring (big) gear is bolted to. the gov-lock would go inside of this. the carrier is different for an open diff vs a gov lock diff, the gov-lock being less desireable because its a big turd and also you cannot swap a detroit locker into it, like you can with an open carrier.
     
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    so the only reason why a gov lock is bad is because you can install a locker on it????
     
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    It is bad because you cannot put a locker in it. You have to have an open carrier to install a Detroit. You will have to find a 14ff with an open carrier and use that. Or just get a spool :grin:
     
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    I Don't mean to hi-jack your post, but is this true with a 14SF as well? Or can you take the gov-lock out and just put in a Detroit on a SF?
     
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    you dont mean too?...you just did.
     
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    Or just weld the gov-lok and make a redneck spool :D Did that to mine, works great. My gov-lok had broken enough to not add traction but still work as an open diff, so I think the 14bff are somewhat stronger than other incarnations of the gov-lok.
     
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    Sorry! Just thought they already answered your question, and I didn't want to start another post on almost the same question.

    I'm pretty sure the SF is different and you can put the detroit in place of the gov-lock, at least I hope so because I just ordered one for my Brother for x-mas.
     
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    im messing with u... this thread is over. :)
     
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    the whole center section that the ring gear is bolted to.
     
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    You are correct :grin:
     

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