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ISO: information on fairly narrow, driver's side pumpkin, front axle

Discussion in 'The Garage' started by dremu, Feb 7, 2004.

  1. dremu

    dremu Officious Thread Derailer Premium Member

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    ISO: information on fairly narrow, driver\'s side pumpkin, front axle

    A friend of a friend of ... is wanting to convert his early 60's Econoline truck to 4WD. Apparently he needs a front axle with a driver's side pumpkin. Also, as this is a fairly small truck, it needs to be ~ 61" WMS to WMS (drum-to-drum).

    Yes, I know it's a Frrd, but it's early iron and besides, anybody who does 4WD conversions on old trucks that were not meant to have it ... is crazy enough to be OK in my book /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

    Apparently an early Wagoneer axle is the right width, but has the passenger side pumpkin, so must be cut and re-tubed, an expense and hassle that this guy wants to avoid.

    We've also heard that early 60's through early 70's Ford F-100 trucks came with a driver's side pumpkin, but no-one seems to know the width of these axles.

    So, to help the friend of a friend of ... out, I'm polling you folks, to see if y'all can identify an axle for us, which has a driver's side pumpkin and is the right width. Any takers?

    -- A
     
  2. tRustyK5

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    Re: ISO: information on fairly narrow, driver\'s side pumpkin, front axle

    look for a 70's Early Bronco...Drivers side drop D44 with disc brakes by 75. WMS-WMS should be about right too.

    Rene
     
  3. dremu

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    Re: ISO: information on fairly narrow, driver\'s side pumpkin, front axle

    Ya know, that was my first thought, but the friend whose friend whose ... drives an EB, and its front axle is ~57" WMS-WMS.

    Damn those EB's are damn small! I'm so used to Burbs making my Blazer look small that I forgot how goddam big a K5 is /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

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    Re: ISO: information on fairly narrow, driver\'s side pumpkin, front axle

    It's within 4" of what he is looking for...so he could always run less Backspacing to get the width where he wants it.

    Rene
     
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    Re: ISO: information on fairly narrow, driver\'s side pumpkin, front axle

    Randy Harral @ driven auto in phx is the early bronco guru....freind of mine and has an all domestic 4x4 wrecking yard. Phone number is 620-269-9204...or of course... www.drivenautoparts.com.

    Also see alot of 4x4 vans running around here...actually saw a 70's chevy 4x4 conversion trun in front of me this week by the house...had that way 70's decals and all...it was actually pretty clean from what i saw of it.

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    Re: ISO: information on fairly narrow, driver\'s side pumpkin, front axle

    I'm not sure what years of FS Cherokees had them,but,some of the later ones have a front axle like you want.I know where there was one near home.{Tenn.}I'll see if it's still there when I get home{around Feb.20}and post again.I think it's a D44.I know it's a six lugger cause I thought about using it under my truck,but,it wasn't wide enough. /forums/images/graemlins/peace.gif
     
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    Re: ISO: information on fairly narrow, driver\'s side pumpkin, front axle

    you cant just flip the axle over?
     
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    Re: ISO: information on fairly narrow, driver\'s side pumpkin, front axle

    I've seen them flipped,but,to get the castor &camber right the ends have to be cut off & turned to get it to drive decently.
     
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    Re: ISO: information on fairly narrow, driver\'s side pumpkin, front axle

    The tires also turn the wrong way when flipped.... /forums/images/graemlins/eek.gif
     
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    Re: ISO: information on fairly narrow, driver\'s side pumpkin, front axle

    That's right.When you flip it the ring gear is on the opposite side & makes the tires rotate the wrong way.This only works if you put a front diff in the rear to get rear steering. /forums/images/graemlins/waytogo.gif
     
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    Re: ISO: information on fairly narrow, driver\'s side pumpkin, front axle

    Have him check the later model Fullsize Jeeps. I think they switched to DS drop in or around 1981.
     
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    Re: ISO: information on fairly narrow, driver\'s side pumpkin, front axle

    How come nobody has mentioned the 73-79 Fords? F150 axle will get ya coil spring cups or F250 will get you leaves.
     
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    Re: ISO: information on fairly narrow, driver\'s side pumpkin, front axle

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    How come nobody has mentioned the 73-79 Fords?

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    Because it'd be about 8-10" too wide...

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    Re: ISO: information on fairly narrow, driver\'s side pumpkin, front axle

    Wassa fullsize Heep -- like a WJ or XJ or whatever they call a Cherokee?
     
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    Re: ISO: information on fairly narrow, driver\'s side pumpkin, front axle

    The old fullsizes were wagoneers or Cherokee Chiefs,I think it depends on if it's a 2 or 4 door.That's what I meant when i said FS Cherokee.They only made the driver side diff a couple of years.I know they were six lugs and I think they are D44s. /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif
     

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