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lets talk about "front" spring flex

Discussion in '1973-1991 K5 Blazer | Truck | Suburban' started by yeild2me, Jan 8, 2002.

  1. yeild2me

    yeild2me 1/2 ton status

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    lets talk about \"front\" spring flex

    ok, as soon as i flip my overload spring on the rear springs, i will be satisfied with that end. my next concern will be the front. heres what ive got--4" rough country springs and soon to be installed HD ORD shackles and greasable bushings. i havent touched the springs, meaning, the clamps are still tight against the spring pack, and it looks almost as if rough country dipped them in paint before shipping and the dried paint is acting like a "glue" to keep the springs from opening up. when i open up the clamps, and clean up all the extra paint, what else can i do to improve droop?? the springs will be off the truck, so i will be able to do about anything.

    all ideas welcome!!

    thanks rob

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  2. 55Willy

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    Re: lets talk about \"front\" spring flex

    I would open the clamps and if you want just install a bolt like the rear end uses. Also to improve them I would get that four letter plastic that Jason(jekbrown) used..no not those four letters[​IMG] it's UMH something????
    and is you want to go all out you can grind down all the ends of the springs so there are no sharp edges, it allows the springs to move better with one another..if you don't get the fancy plastic get some anti-sieze and coat each spring.

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    Well If you still have $$ i would go w/ the ORD DIsconnects, they really let the axle move.

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    Re: lets talk about

    greasable bushings, disconnect sway-bar, teflon inserts, smooth out leaf edges, open up spring clamps, and anti-sieze are just about all you CAN do without buying new custom flexier springs, $$$!

    youll also want to pay attention to what limits travel, ie. swaybar, shocks, steering components, sheet metal, etc.

    good luck!

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    I would grind the edges,cut the clamps, and put the teflon plastic inbetween the springs.After you do this you will find the stock shock mounts will limit the shock you can use so go and get the ford front shock mounts and use the longest shock you can fit.Rancho 9012 or 5012 work good.Also don't waste you $$ on the disconects just toss the swaybar.I pulled the swaybar off my old Sub and had no probs.I put the disconects on my Blazer and found it a pain in tha a$$ to pin them back up.And I didn't notice any difference without the bar on the highway.Brady

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  6. BadDog

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    Re: lets talk about

    Where do you get the teflon inserts after-market? My rear spring packs have pretty much worn out (or lost) the plastic inserts that the factory had in there.

    Russ

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    Okay first. Don't waste your time! We have vitrually the same set up and was nearly identical on the RTI ramp. The problem we have is the rear. Those BIG TIRES. When we were flexin on the ramp we noticed that my rear tire(opposite the one on the ramp) was "hitting" the inside of the wheel well. Not the top but the bottom lip since we run the 14.50 width. If you get a skinny tire it wll go up in the wheel well an flex better. All the above suggestions are correct and will work but if you run those tires and want more than what you have you must tub out the wheel wells. Because that was my limiting factor. I never rubbed the front fender! But it would if I got the skinnier tire!

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    Superlift used to offer the inserts.....if you look in your yellow book contact a retailer for industrial grade plastics and plastic products, also look under industrial materials supply.....my dads company gets it in sheets of 3' x 5' then we cut it to suit our needs... I would not get anything too thick its real brittle..

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    Problem with making your own is there would not be any little snaps to hold them in place. They would fall out when the pack stretches out for droop, unless I'm missing something. I guess you could put full length strips in there. Maybe some of that high density plastic they talked about on one of the other spring posts. Thanks.

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    Re: lets talk about

    Keith,

    Your comment about wide tires and where they rub interests me....just to clarify, the rubbing does not happen on the outer edge of the fender (at the lip) but actually on the metal in the "tub" area? (Have I paraphrased you correctly?) [​IMG]

    Are you using any wheel spacers in the rear to get the same track width as the front? I know that the Blazers came about 3" narrower in the rear from the factory, so a 1.5" spacer on each side might give the extra clearance for those big meats! Maybe you've already done this...just thought I'd ask.

    I'm planning to go with 38.5x15.5x16.5 Swamper Radials on my own rig, and I'm trying to anticipate as many of the problems as I can NOW. [​IMG]




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    Re: lets talk about \"front\" spring flex

    sounds odd but i had a 72 GMC 3/4 and the springs sqeaked and drove me nuts so i took them apart striped and ground the rust and paint and painted them with teflon coat from a cooking supply store,dunno how much that helped but they never made a sound again.
    goodluck

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    Re: lets talk about \"front\" spring flex

    Yes I have the 1.5 spacers and the rubbing is on the inside not the outer. You said it right.

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