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Lift Laws

Discussion in 'The Garage' started by MudFrog, Oct 7, 2004.

  1. MudFrog

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    A buddy of mine received a ticket for his truck being too tall. He drives a 95 K1500, 6" and 38.5's. When the cop gave him a ticket he said it was registered as a passenger vehicle and could only be 22" from the ground to the bumper.

    I seem to recall someone saying our Blazers are registered as Passenger Vehicles as well. Is this true? I've also heard that we can go by the DMV and "tell" them we want to raise the GVW of our trucks and they will. This doesn't seem likely to me but anyone know what is involved in getting a higher GVW? What is our factory GVW? And if it is registered as a passenger vehicle how do I register it as a truck?

    Lastly, here is the Virginia Bumper Law, it does not specify anything about blocks in the rear, although if your blocks are larger then 2.5" they will give you a ticket. I do not see how they can do this since blocks are not mentioned. They do mention altering the suspension but it seems to me like any block would be a ticket, not just 3-4" blocks. Look this over and let me know if you see a section that applies..

    "What are the bumper height laws in the state of Virginia?
    Section 46.2-1063 states:

    Alteration of suspension system; bumper height limits; raising body above frame rail. -- No person shall drive on a public highway any motor vehicle registered as a passenger motor vehicle if it has been modified by alteration of its altitude from the ground to the extent that its bumpers, measured to any point on the lower edge of the main horizontal bumper bar, exclusive of any bumper guards, are not within the range of fourteen inches to twenty-two inches above the ground. Notwithstanding the foregoing provisions of this section, the range of bumper heights for motor vehicles bearing street rod license plates issued pursuant to § 46.2-747 shall be nine to twenty-two inches.

    No vehicle shall be modified to cause the vehicle body or chassis to come in contact with the ground, expose the fuel tank to damage from collision, or cause the wheels to come in contact with the body under normal operation. No part of the original suspension system of a motor vehicle shall be disconnected to defeat the safe operation of its suspension system. However, nothing contained in this section shall prevent the installation of heavy duty equipment, including shock absorbers and overload springs. Nothing contained in this section shall prohibit the driving on a public highway of a motor vehicle with normal wear to the suspension system if such normal wear does not adversely affect the control of the vehicle.

    No person shall drive on a public highway any motor vehicle registered as a truck if it has been modified by alteration of its altitude from the ground to the extent that its bumpers, measured to any point on the lower edge of the main horizontal bumper bar, exclusive of any bumper guards, do not fall within the limits specified herein for its gross vehicle weight rating category. The front bumper height of trucks whose gross vehicle weight ratings are 4,500 pounds or less shall be no less than 14 inches and no more than 28 inches, and their rear bumper height shall be no less than 14 inches and no more than 28 inches. The front bumper height of trucks whose gross vehicle weight ratings are 4,501 pounds to 7,500 pounds shall be no less than 14 inches and no more than 29 inches, and their rear bumper height shall be no less than 14 inches and no more than 30 inches. The front bumper height of trucks whose gross vehicle weight ratings are 7,501 pounds to 15,000 pounds shall be no less than 14 inches and no more than 30 inches, and their rear bumper height shall be no less than 14 inches and no more than 31 inches. Bumper height limitations contained in this section shall not apply to trucks with gross vehicle weight ratings in excess of 15,000 pounds. For the purpose of this section, "truck" includes pickup and panel trucks, and "gross vehicle weight ratings" means manufacturer's gross vehicle weight ratings established for that vehicle as indicated by a number, plate, sticker, decal, or other device affixed to the vehicle by its manufacturer.

    In the absence of bumpers, and in cases where bumper heights have been lowered, height measurements under the foregoing provisions of this section shall be made to the bottom of the frame rail. However, if bumper heights have been raised, height measurements under the foregoing provisions of this section shall be made to the bottom of the main horizontal bumper bar.

    No vehicle shall be operated on a public highway if it has been modified by any means so as to raise its body more than three inches, in addition to any manufacturer's spacers and bushings, above the vehicle's frame rail or manufacturer's attachment points on the frame rail.

    This section shall not apply to specially designed or modified motor vehicles when driven off the public highways in races and similar events. Such motor vehicles may be lawfully towed on the highways of the Commonwealth."
     
  2. hawkeye649

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    A buddy of mine received a ticket for his truck being too tall. He drives a 95 K1500, 6" and 38.5's. When the cop gave him a ticket he said it was registered as a passenger vehicle and could only be 22" from the ground to the bumper.
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    Commonwealth."

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    That's what you get for living in a commonwealth instead of a state. Welcome to the land of the freaks, the peoples republic of virginia!!!! /forums/images/graemlins/rotfl.gif
     
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    However, nothing contained in this section shall prevent the installation of heavy duty equipment, including shock absorbers and overload springs.

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    Well theres a loophole . You need to convince everyone that makes parts to put HD on every receipt and box for parts you use . And make a retracting bumper to lower it when you get pulled over /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif
     
  4. MudFrog

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    I thought my blocks were HD?!? /forums/images/graemlins/histerical.gif
     
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    However, nothing contained in this section shall prevent the installation of heavy duty equipment, including shock absorbers and overload springs.

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    Well theres a loophole . You need to convince everyone that makes parts to put HD on every receipt and box for parts you use . And make a retracting bumper to lower it when you get pulled over /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif

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    All you have to do is either leave the bumper alone, or lower it. If you lower it the measurement is supposed to be to the bottom of the frame. Don't lift it though, then it's too the bottom of the bumper!
     
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    Scott-

    Your bud can basically head to the DMV and get truck plates... and you can too for that matter. It just costs more per year. I had to do this for my Jimmy once. It can be done no prob. But at most with our type of trucks you are only gonna gain 2" to the bumper height. 30" vs. 28"

    In VA, most cops do not really bother people too much about the lift laws unless they are doing something else wrong. (speeding, etc) Or the cop needs something to do.

    Never heard of the suspension lift block rule. AFAIK, it has to do with body lifts. (3" max). I, had 5.5" blocks on the Jimmy /forums/images/graemlins/eek.gif from the PO. Got rid of ASAP. But he had no problem at inspection time.

    Also, Baber (aka. daleearnhardt01) looked into this recently, he may also have some insight.

    John
     
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    What would happen if your truck came equipped stock with 4" blocks. A friend of mine used to have a 77 dodge power wagon that had factory 4" blocks in the rear /forums/images/graemlins/dunno.gif
     
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    John, cops here in Roanoke must be really bored then. /forums/images/graemlins/doah.gif Two friends have gotten tickets within one week. The first being this friend, and he did measure his blocks and tell him 2.5" is the max. Just so happens his block was only 2" so he could not write a ticket for this one.

    My other buddy works for a muffler shop that buys from us, he has a Cherokee on 35's and the cop gave him a ticket for bumper height. Now the really crazy part is the cop wrote on the ticket that he did not have blocks in the front, he said the cop told him that if you have blocks in the rear you must have blocks in the front to "level" it out. /forums/images/graemlins/yikes.gif

    BTW.. another guy was broke down on 581 and a state cop pulled up behind him and gave a verbal warning, he said his truck was illegal but he liked it so he would not write a ticket, but others will.

    It just seems to me the cops are starting to crack down on the lifted trucks just like the lowered sport compacts.
     
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    Scott -

    The deal with the 2.5" lift blocks isnt true, blocks can be up to 6" tall and obviously cant be in the front. Body lifts are 3" max.

    Suspension gets tricky. My registration says mine is a Utility vehicle. They also have my GVWR set at 10k pounds. I think all registrations vary to who typed in all the junk. With that weight rating my truck has the 30" and 31" height limits as opposed to the 28" and 29". In my opinion its neglible because in our trucks lifted like we do 31" is easily passed and we're over the limit. I mean a truck with 6" and 38.5 tires is going to be over the 31" limit easily no question about it. Thats just my opinion so Im not going to even try to be at the limit, Im ready to get hell from cops if they want to give it to me, it just comes with the territory. Pay the fine and go on with life.

    Oh going to truck plates isnt worth it in my opinion. If you register as a truck your exemption from the state car tax is thrown out the window. For me it was a huge savings so I scratched that idea but got lucky with my "screwed up" registration. I dunno its all in how you look at it, its so subjective.
     
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    Go to this Lift Laws by State link and scroll down to Virginia and you will find the 22" limit in the right coloum /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif

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    Jeeps, Samurais, Broncos and Internationals etc without a DETATCHED BED or considered a PANEL TRUCK are NOT included in this range. They consider these PASENGER vehicles and do NOT list a GVWR rating on the vehicles registration. Passenger vehicles have a max. bumper height of 22"

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    Better just move to texas. no laws of any kind, except cattle rustling of course. /forums/images/graemlins/peace.gif /forums/images/graemlins/peace.gif /forums/images/graemlins/woot.gif
     
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    I got pulled over in Orgon for my vehicle being raised. They tole me ANY vehicle raised must have mud flaps. He did not give me a ticket because i was heading to a funeral.
    Ive never been told that ALL vehicles had to have mud flaps, but I have no seen it in writing before...SCREW THEM!
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    Better just move to texas. no laws of any kind, except cattle rustling of course. /forums/images/graemlins/peace.gif /forums/images/graemlins/peace.gif /forums/images/graemlins/woot.gif

    [/ QUOTE ]No Lift laws here in SD either.
     
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    None in Iowa either, just keep it under 13' 6" tall.
     
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    yeah i live in fairfax,VA and i got the same ticket altered suspension on my 1990 k5 with a 6" and 38's. I just went to the dmv and got truck plates. Went to court and the judge asked "Did you take off your lift?" I said no but showed him my new truck plates and he said "That works for me" Walked away with nothing! No problems since.
     
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    I love Texas, only law is that it has to be 52" from the ground to the center of the headlight /forums/images/graemlins/peace.gif
     
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    None in Iowa either, just keep it under 13' 6" tall.

    [/ QUOTE ] Iowa has the +5" bumper hight if I remember correctly.
     
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    Sounds good to me, I checked my doorjam and it said my GVW is 6100, however my registration is blank. It does not give any indication as to what the GVW is.

    It says limitations will not apply to vehicles with 15000+ GVW, hmmm... /forums/images/graemlins/thinking.gif
     
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    None in Iowa either, just keep it under 13' 6" tall.

    [/ QUOTE ] Iowa has the +5" bumper hight if I remember correctly.

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    They repealed that a couple of years ago.
     
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    None in Iowa either, just keep it under 13' 6" tall.

    [/ QUOTE ] Iowa has the +5" bumper hight if I remember correctly.

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    They repealed that a couple of years ago.

    [/ QUOTE ]Kewl, glad too hear it !!! /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif
     

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