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Discussion in 'The Garage' started by daleearnhardt01, Oct 28, 2003.

  1. daleearnhardt01

    daleearnhardt01 1/2 ton status

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    Ok guys I think I have my lift planned out. Tell me what yall think and throw in some suggestions. Remember its a 90 with 350/700R4/241 and 3.42s w/ 33's now /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

    6" BDS for the front and Echobit Flip/Zerorate for the rear
    Not sure what kind of shocks to run
    14 bolt with 4.88s and some sort of posi
    3/4 ten bolt with 4.88s
    Some sort of drivesaft mods I guess
    EA 589s 16.5x9.75
    35 BFG Muds or 35 SSRs both 12.50 wide

    Here lies the question, yall think 37 SSRs are doable on 6"?
    Need some help for steering correction - dropped pitman, bent draglink or raised arm?

    This is my DD and wont see extreme offroading persay but I want to do it right the first time(except Dana 60 thats out of my league right now)

    This isnt happenin overnight, Im gonna have to slowly aquire parts as money allows. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
    Thanks guys
     
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    A Detroit locker for the rear! 4.88s with 35's????
     
  3. daleearnhardt01

    daleearnhardt01 1/2 ton status

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    The whole gear thing is confusin me like crazy. Everyone I ask gives me diffrent answers. Im used to 33s and 3.42 so anything would be a change /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
     
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    ive got 35's on worn out 4" lift springs. Im pretty sure you could fit 37s. You may need to trin a little though
     
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    The gears and tires sound good....only because of the overdrive.
    I'm not a fan (most would agree) of 16.5 rims... they don't hold a bead well.
    37's and 6inch would work fine. or 35's. It depends on what you run on and what your appearance preference is.

    Blake
     
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    I want to do it right the first time

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    Can you still get a shackle flip from Echobit?
    You'll also need extended brake lines - go with the ProComp braided stainless.
    Greasable bushings all the way around since you've already got access to install them.
    Bilstein shocks - why not! /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif
     
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    im gonna get bilsteins 14" travel shocks. Either 5150 (99.99 each) or 6100(125 or so each). From what I hear they r the only way to go.
     
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    Go with 5.13s for the 37s if you have O/D. 4.88 would be perfect, but 5.13 allows for future investments.
     
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    I just put my 37s on w my 6" bds today they fit nice haven't cycled the suspension yet though
     
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    looks like a good plan. i dig everything except the posi and the 16.5" rims. If you have a 700r4 I'd go 5.13 gears... but thats just me. I guess from a gear strength standpoint, 4.88s might be better... esp in the 10b front. Get a detroit for the ff14b... they are cheap and way better offroad. Onroad, they arent a big deal either... i hardly ever notice mine.

    j
     
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    84 chevy k10 you are a little off there buddy...4.88s are the perfect gear to go with up to and including 40 inch tires if he wants to keep the overdrive...it may drive a bit different than with 3.42s but 4.88s will be all he needs unless he goes to a 44 down the road...

    with 6"s you should be fine with a narrow 37...it will need trimming for anything wider

    Later
     
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    i still dont understand why you guys are downing 16.5s...they are not that bad...ive had mine aired down to about 10 psi and never blown a bead

    Later
     
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    [ QUOTE ]
    84 chevy k10 you are a little off there buddy...4.88s are the perfect gear to go with up to and including 40 inch tires if he wants to keep the overdrive

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    Quit reading too many gear charts and drive an overdriven rig sometime.

    If I still had O/D, I'd want as much gear as I could get. My truck was a total dog when it was a 700R4 truck!
     
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    not off a gear chart know it all

    ive got an 88 with a 700r4 and 4.88s with a detroit pulling 42s

    i know exactly what im talking about...thanks for your input though /forums/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif /forums/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif

    Later
     
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    Well, 42/35 = 1.2

    1.2 x 4.10 = 4.92

    I was geared lower than you and my truck still lugged and was a total dog. That's with 35s which have far less rolling resistance than 42s do.

    You can do whatever you want, but I will maintain that 4.88 is ideal for 37s but not much larger. 4.10 for 33s, 4.56 for 35, 4.88 for 36-38, and 5.13 for anything larger.

    Been there, done that, thought it sucked, and would never drive an under geared, overdriven rig again.

    Why don't you roll your eyes at that one. 1800 RPM @ 65 for a rig with that much truck in the air and O/D? Maybe a Diesel or something. /forums/images/graemlins/rotfl.gif

    We're arguing the differnce between about a 2000 RPM cruise at 65 with 4.88 and 37 or a 2200 RPM cruise. I'd take the 2200 over 2000 any day.

    I've been accoused of talking out my ass before, but this is definitely an instance where I have real, hands on experience with this issue, and I strongly disagree with your point.

    Then again, you're the one with the 700R4. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif I don't have to worry about scattering my tranny from not having enough gear to pull the tires
     
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    i forgot everybody did tell me you were an ass

    anyway...maybe your motor was the dog in that combo, mine def. isnt...

    ask yunit, torkdsr, shaggyk5, wayne, donna, mudnuri, boss, fr8train or anybody else that knows my truck or has seen it perform...it is def. not a slouch, so before you go off with this diarrhea of the mouth know what and who you are talking about...my truck is not "undergeared" and is built so when im going to north carolina to hit the sand im cruising in OD

    thanks though "master of gearing knowledge"

    Later
     
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    hate to say it, but i agree with tim. with 4.56s and 35s i hardly ever actually get to use the OD on my 700r4. I dunno what the charts says... all i know is what my rig feels/sounds like when Im driving it... and the rpms are just to low to use OD all that much. Im goin 5.13 as soon as $ allows it.

    others experiences/perceptions may/will be different. Im just offering up my opinion..

    j
     
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    to each his own...

    im just speaking from the experience of driving my truck every day, hitting every mudhole and trailride i can in it, and driving the 4 hours to and from N.C. to hit the beach that it is set up correctly, and goes into OD with no problems...at a decent cruising rpm, top speed of the truck is limited to about 75, which doesnt really bother me as I dont want my truck coming apart on the road anyway

    i had 5.13s in my old truck and it was just too steep to be driving on the road with them

    you guys can keep them...ill stick with my 4.88s

    Later
     
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    Heres what its like now. To get to college from my home is a 3 hour drive. 2 of which are in the mountains. Heres the setup 33s and 3.42s. Bascially in OD its not enough RPMs to sustain any sort of power/speed on a hill or incline. I can have that speedo comin past 85 goin down Afton mountain in OD and wont turn over 2500. Just regular 70-75 mph its like 2000-2200. Cause its such a dog on the hills I always have to bring it out of lockup so I dont lose any speed. When I actually pull it out of OD it turns close to 2800 I think. Anyways thats where Im at now...
     
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    Its been suggested that I do crossover on the 3/4 ten bolt while im there since he has some of the parts Id need. Can yall enlighten me on what exactly parts wise Id need for the swap?
     

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