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lifts, axles, and lockers...oh my!!!

Discussion in '1973-1991 K5 Blazer | Truck | Suburban' started by 74k5inVA, Jan 9, 2002.

  1. 74k5inVA

    74k5inVA 1/2 ton status

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    well, I guess the good news is I am no longer a pavement pounder but a spotter!!!! The bad news is now I know just enough to ask so many more questions :-) for instance. i have a 4" lift that came on the truck when i bought it, but it is more like a saggy 2" now. i want to replace with a 6" system. 6" springs in the front, ord flip and 2" springs in the rear ought to do it. or so many have said. i want to replace my stock 10 bolts with 1 ton axles and i want lockers too. this is just the begining of my list. i knew a truck for $2000 was to good to be true :-) anyways, my real question is what order should i do all of this in, how much money, etc. if i do the lift now and change axles later(better or worse than axles then lift)?????? argghhhhhhhhhhhhhh

    If it can't be broken then I haven't had it.
    '74K5 NP203/sm465 4"Lift 35"BFGs 350ci
     
  2. 84_Chevy_K10

    84_Chevy_K10 Banned

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    What could you possibly need 1 ton axles for in Virginia?

    Tim
    '84 Chevy K10, lifted, loud, fast, and 3/4 ton axles
     
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    NoSmog73 1/2 ton status

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    just my 2 cents I would do the lift first (cheaper) but then with a 6in lift you need to lenthen the driveshaft and the longer brake lines steering mods too???? still cheaper then buying the 1 ton I think- good luck just my 2 cents
     
  4. mudhog

    mudhog THEGAME Staff Member Super Moderator

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    dude you need to chill out you have your own one ton post to cry in dont bring it to someone elses question dont rag on him because YOU dont want one ton's because he obviasly does you changed your axle why cant he change both that was not cool to make a smartass coment to his question just because you dont want one ton stuff so what the hell do you need 3/4 ton stuff for was your half ton stuff not good enough for you? it is his money and his god given right to buy what he wants to buy!!!!
    oh and by the way i am upgrading to one ton so you gona rag on me???????????

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    mudhog THEGAME Staff Member Super Moderator

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    congrats on being a spotter lol in my opinion i would do the lift first then do the axles and lockers and if not doing both lockers at the same time go with the rear locker first sounds like you have a good idea on the ift that is how i would do the lift also

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    84_Chevy_K10 Banned

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    I am not raggin on one. I started the 1 ton post because of this one. And I have 3/4 ton axles because I got them for free, they had good gears, and my 1/2 ton stuff failed...TWICE!

    Tim
    '84 Chevy K10, lifted, loud, fast, and 3/4 ton axles
     
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    mudhog THEGAME Staff Member Super Moderator

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    that is my point your half ton stuff failed you twice i have blown my 12bolt up twice also once on the street and once in the sand and im only running 33's (soon to be 38's[​IMG]) so you got lucky and got your 3/4 ton stuff free way cool but most of us are not that lucky i did get lucky and get a 14ff for $100 now my reason for getting a dana 60? i want peace of mind that when i take my family wheeling i wont get stranded because my dana 44 failed by the way the only diferancebetween a 1/2 and 3/4 ton dana 44 is the breaks and 8 lug i wheel in it all sand snow mud rocks so yes i want a dana 60 and will get one but i wont pay over $800 for one

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  8. CaptCrunch

    CaptCrunch 1/2 ton status

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    Congrats man... soon you'll have to become the full fledge member so you can display your CK5 member sticker w/ pide [​IMG]

    Overall I will say do it all right the first time. It is cheaper and easier that way. Not sure what type of wheeling you have planned and if it is a daily driver but generally w/ a 6" lift you are looking the springs and such. For the steering I'm running a 2" drop pitman arm and a 4" raised steering arm w/ my BDS 5.5" lift(cost=approx. $150) Next call up ORD and get the steering box brace and the swaybar disconnects if you want to keep the sway bar. (These are about $80 each) Also you will need exteded brake lines which vary in cost depending on your choice. I would anticipated needing a CV shaft in the rear because of the lift size and the fact that the shackle flips seems to cause some vibe problems.(Jess at Highangle drivelines can set you up with a One Ton CV for 400-500 bills) I also strongly suggest getting good shocks the first time and not necassarily the cheapies with the lift kit. Next I would look into what else steering wise you need to do? If you want a locker up front you may want a rockram to help steer... maybe a crossover setup or a rock rod... maybe you want to go with an ARB up front... Overall lots of options, but figure for a locker set of one ton axles is gonna be 1500 or more. Also depending on tire size and tranny selection you will want to figure out what gear ratio.

    I'm sure I'm missing a ton of stuff, but if you want any help or input feel free to give a pm. I'd be glad to help keep you from making the mistakes I did.

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  9. 84_Chevy_K10

    84_Chevy_K10 Banned

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    Smart man you are. If nobody'd pay a grand for one, it wouldn't be worth a grand. I'd probably pay $800 for one just to hang onto it.

    I got you beat on the 33s. I broke both my 10 bolt rear before my truck was lifted when it had 31" tires on it. I did have 35s on the 12 bolt when I thrashed it though.

    Tim
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  10. m j

    m j 1/2 ton status

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    the order doesnt matter, you have the PLAN!
    follow it, dont buy stuff you have to throw away later.
    rims for instance. buy 8 lug 16" rims that will clear your one ton brakes or at least get rims that cab be used with little grinding.
    find a 14ff in the gear ratio you need for the end product

    formerly 77chev
    still a jerk though
     
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    m j 1/2 ton status

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    while then I paid $1000 cdn for d60 front and d70 rear.
    current exchange has that to what $500-600usd?
    $1500cdn is the highest price I have heard of them going here, that is $700usd?

    formerly 77chev
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  12. 74k5inVA

    74k5inVA 1/2 ton status

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    thanks for the info, by the way i couldn't find the 1-ton post in question, i guess it must have fallen a few pages back anyone have a clicky to it. i would like to read the barbs

    If it can't be broken then I haven't had it.
    '74K5 NP203/sm465 4"Lift 35"BFGs 350ci
     
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    2Dogs 1/2 ton status Premium Member

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    It is in the All Non 4x4 Issues. Good stuff.

    Dave

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    mudhog THEGAME Staff Member Super Moderator

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    ya take a look herehttp://y42.briefcase.yahoo.com/mudhogck5/pics at<a target="_blank" href=http://community.webshots.com/user/ssmith6333>http://community.webshots.com/user/ssmith6333</a>
     
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    74k5inVA 1/2 ton status

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    thanks for the clicky! i just finished reading that and now my eyes are bleeding! i don't know what he is talking bout. if i can put one ton axles under my truck and never have to worry about breaking it becuase i take the wrong line at an incredibly stupid amount of speed becuase i have never been wheelin before (unless you count cruisin down the beach, or going up a dirt road to go fishin, but heck my escort could do that). so i really only want one tons for the peace of mind they will give me knowing that no matter how bad i screw up, i won't have to replace my axles again.) i know you must learn from your mistakes but i am not going to make a mistake that will cost me over and over and over again.
    not saying that more experienced wheelers can't get by with smaller axles, b/c they can but who knows if i could. don't want to take the chance.

    If it can't be broken then I haven't had it.
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    JIMs70K25 1/2 ton status

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    74k5inVA, let me know if you need a hand when you get start. I'd be glad to help. I'm in Deep Creek.


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  17. 74k5inVA

    74k5inVA 1/2 ton status

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    wow someone on my side of the water on ck5!!!! i didn't think people around here drove chevy trucks. today i went to several stores and priced out 6" lifts everyone wanted to put 6" springs in the front and blocks in the back. i asked each store if they did ord shackle flips and nope, no one around here does it. how hard is it to do in the driveway? i have lifts and stuff but don't know where to begin. by the way lifts were like 600-1000 dollars depending on store.

    If it can't be broken then I haven't had it.
    '74K5 NP203/sm465 4"Lift 35"BFGs 350ci
     
  18. 86K5TrailBlazer

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    its easy to do, in fact it couldnt get much easier, it really is a bolt on operation. the toughest parts youll encounter will be, rustly bolts, shackle flips requires gas tank removal ( empty the tank first) and maybe the steering arm ( a man's torch and a BFH) everthing else just bolts on, oh and that 14ff well you may need to cut the perches off on reweld them in thier proper location) all very easy though 1 weekend for me talking my time and doing 8 bolt conversion up fron to match my 14bff
     
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    Thats also a dodge front that you are running and they are cheaper then a chevy front as far as I have found out. And I think you pay $1.68 for $1, or close to it so the $1000CAN you paid was $600. What do chevy 60's go for up there? (don't even bother repling Tim, I have heard enough from you, I too run the dunes like Mudhog and I have gone through 2 fronts already)anyhoo...back to what i was saying, is the only difference with the dodge is the spring spacing???

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    those are d60 chev prices,
    I couldnt find one local to me when I needed one and settled for the dodge stuff.
    at the time I didnt have the knowledge required to tell a good from poor axle. preinternet days sucked

    formerly 77chev
    still a jerk though
     

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