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Limping around corners

Discussion in '1973-1991 K5 Blazer | Truck | Suburban' started by DUKE, Feb 11, 2002.

  1. DUKE

    DUKE 1/2 ton status

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    Hey all,
    I was messing around to day in 4wheel. I was pulling around the corners of the parking lot and it felt like i had a square wheel on the passenger side. No matter what way i turned left or right. dosent make any noise and only is sharp corners. Is somthing wrong?

    DUKE
    Why go around when you can go over?
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  2. rampage

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    I'm confused ... are you saying you were in 4WD in a paved parking lot?!?!
     
  3. DUKE

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    Okay let me clarify. outside of my parking lot of my apartment is a nice field and rocks and mud from contruction around here. So i thought i would be smart and save 2 minures lock the wheels before i drove the 20 feet to the mud. I wanted to practice =) and play =)

    DUKE
    Why go around when you can go over?
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  4. Can Can

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    You should have waited until you were in the mud to engage the 4x4. What you were feeling was the front tires fighting eachother because they both had traction(I'm sure somebody can explain what happens mechanically when you do this).

    4x4 on dry pavement is a NO-NO!!!!! It leads to premature wear of you front end components and tires......



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  5. RESTORE89

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    very bad boy. never do that again.
    dry pavement 4 wheel drive things go bang
    4 wheel drive no more worky
    did this continue after you got in the dirt?

    It needs a bigger motor.
    what's in it now?
    doen't matter it NEEDS A BIGGER MOTOR
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  6. shawnboy

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    I think what Canmore is referring to mechanically is that when you do this it creates a loose jimson saddle which in turn will cause your sludge pump to baffle and eventually lead to a torqued out bindle rotor.
    Shawnboy.

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  7. DUKE

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    Ok ok i get the idea even 20 feet of pavement is bad. No more. Shawnboy i dont have an F 'n clue. In fact it sounds like you are making stuff up.

    DUKE
    Why go around when you can go over?
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  8. DUKE

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    Oh and i pretty much kept it in a straight like once i got into the mud. But i mean there might be a time i have to turn in fourwheel. Will this only happen on pavement or on the trails too?

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    Why go around when you can go over?
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  9. reddog64

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    did you throw it in 4x4 and do the hubs or just trun the hubs before you got to the dirt...
     
  10. DUKE

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    i hit the hubs first.


    THE REAL QUESTION IS WAS WHAT Im TALKING ABOUT A PROBLEM? or was it just cuz im on pavement

    DUKE
    Why go around when you can go over?
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  11. Can Can

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    On most unpaved surfaces, your front tires will be able to slip enough when turning to avoid the wobble that you felt. Just avoid using your 4x4 on dry pavement and you should be fine.

    I'm not explaining it in the right mech. terms, but I think you get the idea.......



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  12. Overkill

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    If you just locked the hubs on the pavement it shouldn't make a differnce in the ride, unless you have the front axle locked (locker, spool, tight lsd, etc.). If you actually put the tcase in 4wheel (with locked hubs) you will get all kinds of wierd driving characteristics. Also, if you have the hubs unlocked and the tcase in 4wheel, you shouldn't be able to tell the difference, no harm should come of it.Hope this helps.

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  13. shawnboy

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    I'm sorry Duke, I was just givin' you gas buddy. Peace.
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  14. 6.2Blazer

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    If you had the hubs locked in AND the transfer case shifted into four wheel drive, than what you felt is normal. What happens is that when in four wheel drive, the front and rear wheels are forced to turn at the same speed.....however when you are turning the front wheels follow a different path, or arc, as the rear tires. In order to make up for the different paths, the front and rear tires normally turn at different speeds to compensate but can't when locked together in 4wd. One or more of the tires then has to slip to make up the difference, and that is what you are feeling. On loose surfaces like dirt or snow it is easier for the tires to slip and you usually won't notice the jerky motion like you do on dry asphalt.

    You can always just lock the hubs in while on pavement, and then wait to shift into 4wd when in the dirt.

    Contrary to popular believe, if everything is in okay shape on your truck, nothing will magically blow up or stop working by driving in 4wd on dry pavement. The tires should always slip before any mechanical component will break, and it will cause a little more wear. I'm not saying go drive down the freeway in 4wd all of the time, but you don't need to be scared about being in 4wd on pavement for short distances either. A perfect example is rockcrawling, rocks can have as much traction as pavement and you don't see people not shifting into 4wd for that.
     
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    Yeah, 6.2 blazer is right. Just use your head and don't do stupid things. I know a kid that tried to do a 4lo burnout on dry pavement and torched his t-case.... WONDER WHY?
     
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    25 years ago I bought a 72 Suburban form a Construction Company for $400.00 because they thought the transmission was frozen. After crawlling under it and seeing how bound up the drive train was and noticing that the Hubs were on Lock, I bought it without ever driving it and told them I would have it towed that evening. I came back that night with a floorjack and lifted the rear tires off the ground. They spun like a broken mainspring. Someone had driven it from its last offroading to the company head quaters in 4 High and parked it there. It was so bound-up they thought the trany was toast. I drove it for years without having to do anything more to it.

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    LOL that's great. Me, I'm sadistic. Once I had gotten the title signed over, I would've went back to their parking lot with the jack while they were there and let them watch me jack it up, unbind the drivetrain, then drive away :)
     

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