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Locker problem

Discussion in 'The Garage' started by protechk5, Apr 2, 2007.

  1. protechk5

    protechk5 1/2 ton status

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    I got a m1008(k30) and it has the factory detroit locker. Since I put a manual transmission in, its been acting funny. It seems to bind up sometime when going around turns. But only when I press the clutch in, say I turn into a gas station, if I press the clutch in and just coast in to the turn, it starts to bind up, but not i dont press the clutch in. Or also it will do it when in neutral.
     
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    My only thought is that with an automatic, constant torque was applied through the drivetrain, even though speed was reducing and so the detroit had an easier time with engaging straight, unlocking turn. With a manual, I'm believing that the detroit acts like a totally different animal and you have to get used to the quirks. Once you depress the clutch, there is no torque on the drive train. You're coasting. I may be wrong since I've never had a detroit till now, and I'm watching this to see what others who have them have to say.

    Have you checked diff gear fluid? Are you low? That could be an issue too. Are you a mudder? Maybe your fluid is full of junk if you are and needs a change. These are just questions and are by no means an accusation. Just thinking out loud. Here's an opportunity for me and you to grow in knowledge.

    Standing by...

    Manny
     
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    Yeah havent pulled the cover yet, ill check it tonight. I see that you have a 465 and Detroit too. Theres a difference in the newer Detroit and older ones right? I think the older ones lock up alot harder, I can spin my driveshaft like almost half a turn before the wheels will spin, I was told that b/c I have the older Detroit.
     
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    I don't know about new and old, but with my detroit, I can turn the pinion yoke between 1/4 and 1/2 turn before the detroit engages. I'm told that this is normal behavior. My gears were set up by a mud drag professional, so I know he's dead on with the backlash. I have not had the axle under power to get a feel for its handling characteristics. Hmmmm.....

    Manny
     
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    The detroits in the CUCV axle are totally different than the ones you buy to put into an open carrier...
     
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    yeah i know, im talking about a full detroit
     
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    Wait can you still buy a full detroit for a 14bolt, that replaces the carrier?
     
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    You cant buy a full carrier detroit for a 14 bolt, they dont make one the only thing you can buy is the one to drop into the carrier. The one you have in your CUCV is a full carrier one which looks totally different and probably acts a bit different...
     
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    I want to see what happens with this too. I want to go manual, and I have a detroit....
     
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    Could a Detroit carrier from a CUCV go in a open 14BFF?
     
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    How could you put a carrier into a carrier?????
     
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    yes, cuz ur replacing the carrier with the detrioit
     
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    HA HA HA you know what I mean. lol:)
     
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    kool thanx
     
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    Thats how my lock-rite is too. about 1/4 turn of play. I know what you are talking about as far as turning with the clutch in...


    My solution is to clutch in before I even start the turn and then ride it a little (you can pop the clutch too and make the tires chirp ;) ) from mid to end of turn also depending on if I am accelerating out of the turn or slowing to make the turn and stop. Helps if you are in a gear that put the rpm lower so that clutch engagement is pretty much off-idle or so. Drive it some more you will quickly get used to the clutch and figure out how to avoid locker binding in corners. Its all about the 3 footed pedal dance... :D

    Also its a good idea to check/change the fluid because my gear oil ran low and my locker would bind more and be really noisy.

    Also keep in mind that all fully auto lockers like your detriot and my lock-rite will pop or bang and make weird ass noises, especially with a standard, but its all normal and I've been running like this for a while and no problems to speak of...
     
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    Do the newer Detroits lock in as hard? Cuz with mine, its impossible to shift threw gears smoothly.
     
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    HOLD ON!!!!

    A CUCV pickup has a 14FF rear that has the same detroit that everyone on here puts in their civilian 14FFs.

    The front 60 might have a Detroit in it but most were lockrights I think. A detroit for a 60 is a full carrier replacement but if you take that carrier apart it looks almost identical to what you use in a 14FF. It is why a detroit is a detroit.

    There is no difference between a CUCV pickup and a K30s axles.

    Ira
     
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    Protech what do you mean by "bind up"?

    Ira
     
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    You just gotta shift faster ;) :D
     
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    i dont know its hard to explain, the tires dont cherp or anything, but like you can feel it in the driveline.
     

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