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Looseness in steering wheel

Discussion in '1973-1991 K5 Blazer | Truck | Suburban' started by 90K5, Oct 10, 2001.

  1. 90K5

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    Every now and then I can feel some play in the steering wheel. Not that its too easy to move, but it feels like it can almost move in and out, as in toward and away from the column. All the tie rods and ball joints are new, and the steering box bolts are tight, and no cracks in the frame. I looked at it extensively today and could find nothing wrong. any ideas?, and no, I don't have an ORD brace...yet

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    have you checked the rag joint. The joint that is about 6" from the sterring box? just my 2 cents
     
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    Check your lock ring out - 20 to 1 it's slacked off, and is allowing the in/out play. Throw the OEM lock ring away and put a 5/8" c-clip or 9/16" snapring in it's place.

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    How can you tell if the rag joint is bad? If we are talking about the same thing, mine looks a little messed up, seems to be kind of bent up. RAg joint it the thing thta connects the steering box to the steering shaft, right?

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    They all look messed up like that.

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    Do you have a tilt column? If so, try BigBurb's write-up on fixing this problem if it's loose.

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  7. 90K5

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    Where is the lock ring?

    Where is Big Burb's write up?

    Thanks

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    BigBurb's write-up, I believe, was taken from another members website (dyeager535). The info is the same.

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    Looked the it again...I can't move the steering wheel at all, it just feels like something is loose somewhere on the column or shaft.

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    Sounds like you have caught it early before it's really bad. Mine was like that and got progressively worse in a fairly short amount of time. It takes some time and patience to do [repair], but the result is astounding. You'll wonder how you lived with it before!

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    Just a theory on prevention after you get it fixed. Don't use the steering wheel as a grip for getting in or out. It's real natural to do this on a lifted vehicle and I wrecked the tilt column on my '77 by pulling myself in.
     
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    I don't think I use it as a grip when I get in, because I heard on here this is bad for it. I've always just kinda gotten in. Maybe the previous owner did that though...

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    So, what is the part replaced in the write up?

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    Nothing is replaced, it's tightening up the assemblys existing hardware (and adding Loctite) to get it back to 100%

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    Nah, I stole it from someone elses post here, believe I got permission : )

    In/Out play not accompanied by vertical/side to side play is going to be something else. The "loose tilt" problem is noticed where the upper half of the column pivots. That whole section will move, not just the wheel.

    But the writeup will help if you need to do a teardown.

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    Allright, sounds like its something else. The column and wheel are solid, but there is something loose somewhere. Guess I need to take a good look at the whole assembly.

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    If I grab my steerign shaft and wiggle it, there is some play in it. Cold this be the problem, or do they all do this?

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    You could pull the center cap off, pull the "lock clip" off and make sure the steering wheel nut is tight. Outside chance thats the problem though, the shaft is plined the entire length, and usually doesn't loosen up. Not hard to check though.

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    The lock ring that goes on the nut that holds the wheel on wasn't there, so thta was probably the problem. Got a new one and tightened the steerign wheel a little bit, wasn't very loose, maybe 1/4 turn and put the new ring on. Seems to have helped a little bit.

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    Did you use a lock plate compressor and get it in the second groove? It takes quite a bit of work to get it in there - you can usually rent a compressor from the auto parts, but you could also buy one for around $10. There's a pic of what it should look like when it's all together normally pugsley.alloffroad.com
     

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