ok for those of you that have the mile marker winches.... I see that the 12k is discontinued... E12000 Part Number 76-50050C so its replacement is SE12000 Part Number 76-50150 my question is I remember the people over at ewinches.com told me the newer (se12000) has a plastic handle and is not as good. can anyone here confirm that? I am going to start searching for one of the 2. the newer one is about $50 cheaper but I will hunt down the other if it is better... my game plan is to take a piece of plate steel... 1/4" unless that is not thick enough... mount it under my bed and under the frame rails... then make a [ around it. hard to explain but it would have the mounting plate and 3 sides.. only open to the top and back of truck to keep some of the mud out... I am planning on cutting a hole in the bed and putting hinges in to clean it out... also going to cut the double tube bumper and mount a roller fairlead into it now with the setup like that does it matter if I bolt the plate to the bottom of the frame or should I stick it on top of the bottom of the C part? if you are pulling the back will lift upwards so if I mount it to the bottom then the plate steel will also use the frame as a stationary object too.. sorry if confusing you but I know what I want to say but dont know how to.... just found a guy with a new e12k winch and t-max wireless remote to my door for $500!!!!!