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Moving battery, Behind front passenger seat. What to do with winch wires?

Discussion in 'The Garage' started by Silver84k5, Feb 18, 2004.

  1. Silver84k5

    Silver84k5 1/2 ton status

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    the guy at Six States was telling me i need to use an interrupter somethin a ruther. cost like 180 or some crap.. Is there really a need for this? or can i just get some longer cables and route them along the frame and up through the floor to the battery? any other suggestions? thx.
     
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    You need the heaviest cables you can find. I'd say 4/0 should do it. /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif
     
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    Silver84k5 1/2 ton status

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    why is that? i dunno what the stock ones are. but why wouldnt they work? i see rigs with winches on their bumpers, with those Wires that have the plugs on the end. whats up with those?
     
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    You need the heaviest cables you can find. I'd say 4/0 should do it. /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif

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    no you don't need all that crap and you don't need 0/4 gauge. just get some 1 gauge wires and reroute them. be sure to use gromets on all you penitrations and secure the cable well and you'll be fine.
     
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    yea i kinda though that sounded sarcastic... funny guy eh.
     
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    What I am doing is mounting one of those heavy duty military distribution blocks on the firewall. I am running one cable from the battery behind the seat to that panel. then I am running the winch cable to that panel and another one to the starter. Alternator wire will also go there. One the ground side, I will use two cables from the battery, one to the frame and another one to the panel. Off of the panel I will put the winch ground (Its also grounded through the housing), and ground out to the body and whatever.

    This should help keep the traffic to the battery down and avoid long cable along the frame and stuff.

    I am considereing a rear winch where the gas tank is at right now and I would just hook that strait to the batttery.
     
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    You need the heaviest cables you can find. I'd say 4/0 should do it. /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif

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    bit excessive dont you think?
     
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    I don't know, what is the NEC spec for 500 amps going about 10 feet or so? I'll have to ask my dad.

    It's certainly bigger than 1 gauge, I can tell you that.

    My winch has the capability of pulling well over 400 amps.
     
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    Two things to keep in mind when moving a battery into the passenger compartment:

    1) Make sure that sucker is held in place VERY well. In a rollover it could rip from its mount and start flying around inside your rig. /forums/images/graemlins/yikes.gif

    2) Use ONLY gel-cell type batteries, such as an Optima. A lead-acid battery can dump its contents on you when your rig is upside down. Getting bathed with sulfuric acid will ruin your whole day. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
     
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    I don't think you'd have to worry about it as long as the battery was in a box.

    According to my dad he doesn't think 4/0 is even ENOUGH cable to pass 500 amps but he's going to check his book in a few minutes and I'll edit this post.
     
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    What are you up to Josh? /forums/images/graemlins/yikes.gif

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    4/0 is good for ~400 amps, so technically not enough for a winch, and definitely not overkill.
     
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    well what are the stock wires on the winch? i was just gonna buy the same [darn]......
     
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    The stock wires on the winch are about 2' long. You cannot compare that to a run as long as that.

    You can do it with small wire if you want, but have a fire extinguisher handy in case it lights on fire.
     
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    What are you up to Josh? /forums/images/graemlins/yikes.gif

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    cornfed (Jason) is gonna help me narrow the front end. Then im either gonna take the rear skins off like supersize75, or dove it, like Sandman did. havent made up my mind yet. /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif Cassidy and jason did it to his rig, i cant wait to see it when he gets it back from the body shop.
     
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    Aw crap. I thought my 2/0 stranded would be enough. Oh well. Mines mounted inside the frame rail just in front of the rear passenger tire. Looks like I'll have to redo when I add the second battery and a winch... /forums/images/graemlins/doah.gif
     
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    Aw crap. I thought my 2/0 stranded would be enough. Oh well. Mines mounted inside the frame rail just in front of the rear passenger tire. Looks like I'll have to redo when I add the second battery and a winch... /forums/images/graemlins/doah.gif

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    What I said isn't gospel, but number two or something isn't going to cut it for that kind of current.

    To all y'all that said it was overkill, you might as well type up a retraction. Otherwise I've got 1500 pages of 2002 NEC at arms reach. /forums/images/graemlins/rotfl.gif /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif
     
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    I don't like things "marginal" so I'll be redoing. Damn'd 4/0 stranded won't be cheap...

    Thanks for the info!
     
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    why is that? i dunno what the stock ones are. but why wouldnt they work? i see rigs with winches on their bumpers, with those Wires that have the plugs on the end. whats up with those?

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    I'll have to check this issue out at work but I believe those big plugs are rated for 400 amps at least.
     
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    I don't think you'd have to worry about it as long as the battery was in a box.

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    What's gonna hold the box down? A 70+ pound battery suddenly becomes very heavy when subjected to the G-forces of a rollover. /forums/images/graemlins/eek.gif I wouldn't trust my life to a plastic battery box and a hold down strap connected to some rusted sheet metal. /forums/images/graemlins/yikes.gif
     

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