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My brand new awesome driveway is a piece of crap. (new title)

Discussion in 'The Lounge' started by newyorkin, Nov 8, 2006.

  1. newyorkin

    newyorkin 1 ton status

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    Over the past couple years, my house started sinking from the driveway and yard constantly flooding and flooding the basement. All the water from the block was running down the street into our yard and driveway. The town put a new burm in and basically a giant speed bump on our driveway to fix it, which barely helped.
    We finally dropped a ton of cash on a new driveway last year to raise it up from the street.
    So last week, the town repaved my road. And they raised it up 3 inches! WTF??? If I wanna dig a hole near my property I have to do an environmental impact study on how it'll effect runoff, but these bungholes can roll in and raise the road??
    So now the burm is too low and storm water is going right over it and flooding the yard again (over 6 inches of water, creeping way too close to my year-seasoned firewood), and the water that doesn't jump the burm is going in one side of the driveway, and out the other (half circle driveway), instead of running down the road in front of the house.

    Snow melt is going to make my driveway a sheet of ice in the winter... Whenever someone washes thier car, my driveway is going to have their soap and scum in it...


    And the town is telling me they'll put a new burm in and put an apron on my driveway. The apron they put on my old driveway was a piece of **** that would bottom out our cars and looked like crap. I spent extra cash to get a nice looking driveway, and they're going to come by and make it look like a hogpodged piece of sh** again. Forking curb appeal man!! I'm ready to send them the bill for the driveway...
     
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  3. 73k5blazer

    73k5blazer Unplug the matrix cable from the back of your head Premium Member

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    No storm drains around there?
     
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    They're at the end of the block, I'm about 1/4 up the block. The rest of the block is a hill.

    I was just thinking a little more on this...

    On one driveway entrance, the road is about the same height as it was before, but at the high side, the road is 3 inches higher than the old road. Why does then new road go up 3 inches in 20' when the old road didn't??
     
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    Start taking pics and start bitchin, then hire a lawyer and start suing...
     
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    I have plenty of pics now... The town has a 5 foot right of way easement, so they can put the crappiest apron in the world there, and I think I have no room to bitch.
    I may get a lawyer if they don't handle this well, though. I think my house was here before the town was established, so maybe my property is grandfathered from the easement.

    So Hillary won and the town is screwing me up... Ohio is looking better every day...
     
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    Subject: Go Figure

    This is a copy of an actual letter sent to Ryan DeVries, from the
    Michigan Department of Environmental Quality, State of Michigan. Wait
    till you read this guy's response - but read the entire letter before
    you get to the response.

    Mr. Ryan DeVries
    2088 Dagget
    Pierson, MI 49339
    SUBJECT: DEQ File No. 97-59-0023; T11N; R10W, Sec. 20;

    Site Location: Montcalm County

    Dear Mr. DeVries:

    It has come to the attention of the Department of Environmental Quality
    that there has been recent unauthorized activity on the above referenced
    parcel of property. You have been certified as the legal landowner
    and/or contractor who did the following unauthorized activity:

    Construction and maintenance of two wood debris dams across the outlet
    stream of Spring Pond.

    A permit must be issued prior to the start of this type of activity. A
    review of the Department's files shows that no permits have been issued.

    Therefore, the Department has determined that this activity is in
    violation of Part 301, Inland Lakes and Streams, of the Natural Resource
    and Environmental Protection Act, Act 451 of the Public Acts of 1994,
    being sections 324.30101 to 324.30113 of the Michigan Compiled Laws
    annotated.

    The Department has been informed that one or both of the dams partially
    failed during a recent rain event, causing debris and flooding at
    downstream locations. We find that dams of this nature are inherently
    hazardous and cannot be permitted.

    The Department therefore orders you to cease and desist all activities
    at this location, and to restore the stream to a free-flow condition by
    removing all wood and brush forming the dams from the stream channel.
    All restoration work shall be completed no later than January 31, 2002.

    Please notify this office when the restoration has been completed so
    that a follow-up site inspection may be scheduled by our staff. Failure
    to comply with this request or any further unauthorized activity on the
    site may result in this case being referred for elevated enforcement
    action.

    We anticipate and would appreciate your full cooperation in this matter.
    Please feel free to contact me at this office if you have any questions.

    Sincerely,
    David L. Price
    District Representative
    Land and Water Management Division
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    RESPONSE:

    Dear Mr. Price,

    Re: DEQ File No. 97-59-0023; T11N; R10W, Sec. 20;
    Montcalm County

    Reference your certified letter dated 12/17/2000 has been referred to me
    to respond to. First of all, Mr. Ryan De Vries is not the legal
    landowner and/or contractor at 2088 Dagget, Pierson, Michigan.

    I am the legal owner and a couple of beavers are in the (State
    unauthorized) process of constructing and maintaining two wood "debris"
    dams across the outlet stream of my Spring Pond.

    While I did not pay for, authorize, nor supervise their dam project, I
    think they would be highly offended that you call their skillful use of
    natural building materials "debris." I would like to challenge your
    department to attempt to emulate their dam project any time and/or any
    place you choose. I believe I can safely state there is no way you could
    ever match their dam skills, their dam resourcefulness, their dam
    ingenuity, their dam persistence, their dam determination and/or their
    dam work ethic.

    As to your request, I do not think the beavers are aware that they must
    first fill out a dam permit prior to the start of this type of dam
    activity. My first dam question to you is:
    (1) Are you trying to discriminate against my Spring Pond Beavers? or,
    (2) do you require all beavers throughout this State to conform to said
    dam request?

    If you are not discriminating against these particular beavers, through
    the Freedom of Information Act I request completed copies of all those
    other applicable beaver dam permits that have been issued. Perhaps we
    will see if there really is a dam violation of P! art 301, Inland Lakes
    and Streams, of the Natural Resource and Environmental Protection Act,
    Act 451 of the Public Acts of 1994, being sections 324.3010,1 to
    324.30113 of the Michigan Compiled Laws, annotated. I have several
    concerns. My first concern is aren't the beavers entitled to legal
    representation?

    The Spring Pond Beavers are financially destitute and are unable to pay
    for said representation - so the State will have to provide them with a
    lawyer.

    The Department's dam concern that either one or both of the dams failed
    during a recent rain event causing flooding is proof that this is a
    natural occurrence, which the Department is required to protect. In
    other words, we should leave the Spring Pond Beavers alone rather than
    harrass them and call their dam names. If you want the stream "restored"
    to a dam free-flow condition - please contact the beavers - but if you
    are going to arrest them they obviously did not pay any attention to
    your dam letter (being unable to read English).

    In my humble ! opinion, the Spring Pond Beavers have a right to build
    their unauthorized dams as long as the sky is blue, the grass is green
    and water flows downstream. They have more dam right than I do to live
    and enjoy Spring Pond. If the Department of Natural Resources and
    Environmental Protection lives up to its name, it should protect the
    natural resources
    (Beavers) and the environment (Beavers' Dams).

    So, as far as the beavers and I are concerned, this dam case can be
    referred for more elevated enforcement action right now. Why wait until
    1/31/2002 The Spring Pond Beavers may be under the dam ice then, and
    there will be no way for you or your dam staff to contact/harass them
    then.

    In conclusion, I would like to bring to your attention a real
    environmental quality (health) problem in the area. It is the bears.
    Bears are actually defecating in our woods. I definitely believe you
    should be persecuting the defecating bears and leave the beavers alone.

    If you are going to investigate the beaver dam, watch your step! (The
    bears are not careful where they dump!)

    Being unable to comply with your dam request, and being unable to
    contact you on your answering machine, I am sending this response to
    your office via another government organization - the USPS. Maybe,
    someday, it will get there.

    Sincerely,
    Stephen L. Tvedten
    The University of Texas at: Austin
    Office Community Relations/Accounting unit
    P.O. Box 7367
    Austin, TX 78713
     
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    that sucks Ratch.i had an apron on the other property i bought next door. when the city came in to replace the street,they left out the apron!!!!!!then they put in sod.:mad: i asked them to leave the apron alone cuz i'm gonna put in a new garage on that side.
     
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    Dude.. we've got kucinich..run away, run away..
     
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    So he can have lots of beaver oil?
     
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    just a idea for ya. my mother had some street problems hear. she asked and called. no respons. so she wrote a letter to the local paper to be put in to the letters to the editor section. bam that got them moving real quick. :haha:
     
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    There was a problem like that at a subdivision here in town and the city wrote all the homeowners letters saying that is wasn't their fault and the home owners were responsible for correcting the problem. Some actaully went and got estimates for fixing the problems they seemed to average around 4 grand, one news story and a week later and the city was on the problem and homeowners were not charged
     

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