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My dream crate engine

Discussion in 'The Garage' started by Chevy305, Aug 21, 2006.

  1. Chevy305

    Chevy305 6 Lug 14bsf Status Premium Member GMOTM Winner

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    Not trying to say the 305 ain't cuttin' it, but we all know there is no such thing as too much power. :p:

    This is a some what realistic crate engine that I could get. Its from World Products:

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    415 cid small block with 465hp and 490torque :bow:


    "World Products knows how to build powerhouse Chevrolet small blocks. Take, for example, their muscular 465 HP, 415 c.i.d. Motown crate engines, which put out 490 ft.-lbs. of torque. They're built around the company's rugged, 4-bolt-main Motown cast-iron block, plus an Eagle 4340 forged-steel crankshaft, 4340 forged-steel H-beam connecting rods, and 9.5:1 forged-aluminum pistons with performance rings. The cylinder heads are World's own Motown 220 cast iron units, fitted with Manley Racemaster stainless steel valves (2.080 in. intake, 1.60 in. exhaust), aluminum roller rocker arms, and chromemoly pushrods. The cam is a high-performance hydraulic type. In the induction department, World picked one of their Motown aluminum intake manifolds, topped off with a modified 870 cfm Holley 4-barrel. For the ignition system, they chose an HEI distributor, and 8mm plug wires. These Motown engines are internally balanced and are fitted with a Hardcore CNC-machined harmonic balancer. They're assembled with Clevite bearings and quality components from Fel-Pro, ARP, and Manley, and they come complete with Motown valve covers. Each engine is individually dyno-tested and certified to meet the advertised power output."


    The down side is the price tag at about $8K :rolleyes:
     
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    koldsimer 1/2 ton status GMOTM Winner

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    I dunno man. Spend half that on a ht383 and then FI. Not saying I wouldn't want that motor though...:D
     
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    that is some serious power for a small block. Personally, I'd rather have a crate 350 Ramjet though. Lot cheaper, has FI... plenty for power for what I do. To each their own though, that thing is bad ass!

    j
     
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    383 CID Torquer 460 engine - 4 bolt main block, ASE 234 hyd. cam, 195 CNC ported AFR aluminum cyl. heads, Edelbrock RPM intake manifold, forged pistons, 5.7" steel rods, 9.6 comp.460 hp $5,650.00
    This is from http://www.amerspeed.com/

    They have a ton of small block crate engines. everything from 350cid to 454cid with power ranging from 270hp to over 700hp all with small blocks. They dyno tune and break in their engines as does World Products. Plus they have a ton of optional equipment. Like different carbs, flywheels, fully forged rotating assymblies, and dual quad set ups :saweet:
     
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    If I had that much to blow on a motor it'd be this little monster... it doesn't get much more badass then a 454 sb chevy laying down 600 hp and 575 ft lbs n/a that will fun on pump gas. That thing is a work of art. SB's rule.

    I already have the plans on what I want to build for my dream car... 69 camaro built for road racing with this setup only alumnim block. Now all I need is about 25 g's:rolleyes: :eek1:

    http://www.jegs.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CategoryDisplay?storeId=10001&catalogId=10002&catalogIdentifier=Jegs_Direct&categoryId=28673&parentCategoryId=10763

    the 415 is impressive but for that price you could have one built with the same power then put efi on it.
     
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    big dan 1/2 ton status Premium Member

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    how about one of those 572 all aluminum big blocks?:D
    572cid 700hp and it weighs 471lbs.:eek1: got a hefty price tag though, I think it was like 15k.
     
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    I have always like the world motors, just wanted to call them up and say hey I need a truck avenger on that motor, tune it with that carb, now that would be cool.
     
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    'bout $5k for this... w/ 400 ft/lbs...

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    add 12 volts and fuel and you're done. Sure a big block would have double the torque... but thats ok, use gearing to get the same amount. 3:1 203 + 3:1 Lomax? If that ain't enough torque for ya... lol!

    j
     
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    x2 on that, brother.
     
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    For the same price and services as world products, the Amerspeed.com can build you a 550hp sb:

    383 CID Brutus 550 engine 4 bolt main block, comp Cams roller cam, 210 CNC ported AFR aluminum cyl. heads, 6" Eagle steel rods, Edelbrock Victor Jr. manifold, SRP forged pistons, 9.6 comp., ASE 4340 steel crankshaft. 550 hp $7,925.00
     
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    try driving most of these on the street though or offroad and youd greatly love the ramjet...;)
     
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    Not saying I'd buy a 550hp engine for a DD. Especially since I still have mostly 1/2 ton running gear :crazy:. If I do ever get a crate engine it would probably be one like these:

    355 CID Enforcer 375 engine 4 bolt main block, ASE 280 hyd. cam, Dart S/S cast iron cyl. heads, Edelbrock Performer intake manifold, 9.0 comp. 375 hp $3,895.00

    http://www.jegs.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CategoryDisplay?storeId=10001&catalogId=10002&catalogIdentifier=Jegs_Direct&categoryId=85486&parentCategoryId=10763

    The Yearone crate engine: #CT350PC1 for $2999
    Engine Specifications:
    ·Horsepower- 400+
    ·Torque- 400+ ft/lbs
    ·Compression ratio- 9.5:1
    ·Dyno-tested: Yes, includes harmonic balancer and flexplate
    ·Dyno sheet: Included with engine's output
    ·Vacuum produced: 12hg @ 800RPM
    ·Recommended fuel- 92 octane
    ·Max recommended RPM- 6000
    ·Block- Seasoned 4-bolt iron
    ·Crankshaft- Nodular iron
    ·Pistons- Hypereutectic
    ·Connecting rods- Powdered metal
    ·Camshaft- Hydraulic roller
    ·Valve lift:.520"
    ·Duration @ .050" (int/exh): 218deg/228deg
    ·Rocker arms- 1.6:1 ratio
    ·Cylinder heads- Ported Vortec
    ·Valves- Stainless steel 2.02 int/1.60 exh
    ·Valve springs: Heavy duty
    ·Bore x Stroke- 4.030" x 3.48"
    ·Intake manifold- Dual-plane aluminum
    ·Oil pan, timing cover, valve covers included
    ·Engine fasteners: High tensile strength
    ·Warranty- 12 month/12,000 mi





    Also fuel injection is real nice, but I like my carbs too much.
     
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    horsepower doesnt mean ****. torque is where its at. lots of it, and down low.

    we're not trying to propel a 2500# drag car here, we're trying to propel a 5000#+ truck.
     
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    I've got one of those 415's. It's in my truck. Well its a triton V10 6.8 litre. 300 horses an 425lbs torque. Pulls hard all thru the power band and loves sitting at the rev limiter all day long.
     
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    "900 BHP" :rolleyes: its a 6 rotor engine

    dont know anything bout this...just found it today.
     
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    Very very true... but USUALLY hp and tq follow each other. Yeah you need low rpm tq to get moving but if you want the thing to move and move good in a straight line you need both. You can make both low rpm tq and good hp with the right heads, cam, etc... like the afr 180's and 185's for a 350. With the right cam you'll see 450 hp depending on the rest of the part combo on the motor. With that 450 hp you could expect about 475 ft lbs. I'd like my truck to be fast... well fast for a truck. Heep came out with a grand cherokee with 425 hp that pulls to 60 in under 5 seconds(better than fords shiny new mustang) wet or dry(at least thats what they claim). With brute force its not hard to lay down some good 1/4 mile times and 0 to 60.
     
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    not always true, according to your logic, a 400 horse 383 would put out about the same torque numbers as a 400 horse Honda I-4. simply not true.

    building for torque, and building for horsepower are 2 totally different ballgames.
     
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    me too , pretty good engine being rodding the hell out of it for 60,000 miles(half of it's 120,000) with no problems
     

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