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My Drums are weird. HELP!!

Discussion in 'The Garage' started by k5freak44, Mar 16, 2005.

  1. k5freak44

    k5freak44 1/2 ton status

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    14bff drums. cant get em off.

    they are loose and i can move them back and forth about.... a half inch.

    all the spindle nuts are off and i cant find an acess hole in the back

    i do have a liuttle brass pin that has a sping on it and when i try to pry it off the drums move. im assumeing this is my problem but it has no way of grabbing it or removing it that i can see. here is a pic

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    that thing holds the brake shoes on, I had one break, fun stuff. Are you sure there isnt a ridge inside the drums the shoes are stuck in. Try backin the shoes off, and itll prob pop right off.
     
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    how do i back the shoes off? i dont have that little access pannel
     
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    Your brake shoes are probably stuck in a groove they wor into the drums.You are going to need to backoff the adjusters.There should be a knockout in the front of the drum,that you can knock in with a chisel.You should be able to get o the adjuster thru that hole. The little brass thing is the hold down pin,that holds a spring that holds your shoes to the backing plate.Jon
     
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    it may be in the drum and not on the backingplate.
     
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    see that long skinny hole at the top of the pic? Thats the sighting hole. There should be another opposite on the backing plate. In between there should be either, a flat metal piece like a plug, a rubber plug, or a punchout. If its a punchout, you will have to knock it inside the drum, back the shoes off, and then remove the drum & the metal piece.

    Behind that plug of punchout will be a star wheel w/ a metal piece that keeps it from backing off. I use 2 long skinny screwdrivers, one pushin away on the metal piece, and the other backin the shoes off. They make a special tool for it, but it aint that hard w/ 2 screwdrivers
     
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    alright i found it after a couple of minutes of strategically placeing my flashliught and turning my drum. i dont know if its maxed out or frozen tho, but when i try to turn it with my screwdriver it just twists the whole line then pops back and dosent spin it anywhere.

    im not sure if this is my problem tho.

    if the pads were grooved into the drums, would it allow about a .5in movement of the drum. i can also easily spin my drums.

    it looks like the pad is in contact with them tho.

    ahhhh i dunno im done for tonight i have a bunch of homework.

    help!!!!!




    thanks guys
     
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    had the sort of the same problem last week. the e-brake was locked in and the adjuster nut was striped. so I used and prybar and kept prying it open between the drum and backing plate. I destroyed the shoes and the e brake assambley but I wasn't going to reuse them since I was going to disk brakes anyways. o yeah I used the BFH too it took awhile but I got them off.
     
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    Bigger hammer, seriously. Whack them enough times they'll come out even if the shoes are holding them in.
     
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    ive been wacking aroud the edge of the drum with a hammer. is there a better place to hit it?


    will the reguar sized hammer im useing work?
     
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    Whack, rotate, whack, rotate. You could try cracking the bleeder to let off any pressure in the system. The shoes will retract as you beat the drum out.
     
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    k

    thanks ill try that tomarro
     
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    If you were just gonna swap to rear disc's you could have unbolted the backing plate and removed the whole works in under 5 minutes...;)

    Rene
     
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    ummmm.... but the bolt were from the inside. unless I was missing somthing :thinking:
     
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    yea thats what i was thinking
     
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    Unless you're using the Force, you still need to remove the drum to get at the backing plate bolts;)

    As for the original post, I can only repeat the above suggestions: penetrating fluid, backing off the star wheel adjuster (I never know which way to turn the damn thing), brute force and/or some heat:( .

    James
     
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    LOL, it's been a few years since I had drums...:doah:

    Rene
     
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    IIRC trhe adjuster wheel only can be tightened not loosened becuase the parking brake lever rests on it and locks it in place. You'd hafta push the parking brake lever out of the way in order to loosen it up. Or I oculd be all wrong :grin:
     
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    That's the reason for the second screwdriver. One to push the lever away from the adjuster, and one to turn the adjuster.

    Rene
     
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    Just had a thought. You might be able to twist and undo the shoe retainers from the back side with some good pliers...

    Rene
     

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