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Need cutting torch info -gases, charges for filling tanks, etc

Discussion in 'The Garage' started by jjlaughner, Jun 5, 2003.

  1. jjlaughner

    jjlaughner 3/4 ton status Premium Member

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    I'm thinking about buying this portable kit from Sears (on my sears card because I'm broke and I like debt /forums/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif)

    It has the two small tanks and all the extras and a portable carrier. All I'm going to do with it is cut bolts off and maybe cut some sheet metal so I dont need anything big.

    Questions- what are the two gases I'm going to be using, what should it cost to fill the 1/2 size tanks (I know most places you rent you the tank and when you get refills they swap you tanks.... But I'm buying the two tanks in the kit)

    The kit is about $300 for the two tanks, all the guages, torch handle and tips, goggles, all the little stuff. I'm guessing most of the money is for the tanks? I think they are 20 cu/ft each? /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif
     
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    JK5 1/2 ton status GMOTM Winner

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    That sounds pretty pricey!!!

    My set-up from AGA Gas...

    Harris Torch set... $175
    Tanks $100 ea filled....lifetime rental
    Cart $50

    $45o for a real set-up... /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

    AGA has the mini-torch set too...I don't know what they are going for though.
     
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    DPI 1/2 ton status

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    I am just now trying to get a torch setup. I found a Victor kit at Sam's Club for $130. It is the same kit as this one from HarborFreight. I think the stuff is made in Brazil... Not sure of the quality, but the same kit was selling at the welding shops for $200.
    I am going to try Propylene (HPG) for the fuel. It seems to be as safe as Propane and you even use a propane bottel. It is $3 a gallon. To calculate the lbs to gallons you use this formula. lbs/4.24=gallons then multiply that by $3.00. A 25 lbs bottle would costs $17.69 to fill. Here is the manufacture of the gas http://www.bmsbtu.com/hpg.asp. They say it will last 5 times longer than Acetylene and is much more stable. The only thing you need to buy is a tip to allow you to use the Propylene.

    I found a place locally that will sell a K size (150CF) of oxygen for $177. Then $20.25 to refill. That's pretty good around here. Most place won't sell a tank larger than 40 CF.
    That's just some stuff I found while researching a torch outfit. Take it for what it's worth!
     
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    SkulzNBonz 1/2 ton status

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    Acetylene and Oxygen are the gases. 1/2 size tank shouldn't be more than $20 to fill. Been a while since I've filled tanks.

    John
     
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    i heard it was kinda a bad idea to cut with those small kits w/ plastic holder and such cause it can draw the acetone out of the tank. im sure it would be ok for some supa light cutting but if your going to cut alot then i would get the larger tanks.
     
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    dyeager535 1 ton status Premium Member

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    Tanks $100 ea filled....lifetime rental


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    Last time I went to the welding supply place, they told me the deal where you couldn't fill the tank if some other name was on it, is now gone. You can own/fill any tank you like. I brought that up because they sold me one with a name on it.

    Another thing I've noticed is that you need to shop around for the gas itself. Prices vary widely.
     
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    JK5 1/2 ton status GMOTM Winner

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    Yep...I'm stuck going to AGA...
    but they have had the best pricing in my area...for 10 years now...

    If you OWN your tanks around here...
    It takes time to get them filled...
    because they may test the tank and valve.

    We Own Tanks at work...it's a real PAIN to fill them...
    so we went Lifetime rental. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
     
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    I got my cutting outfit from a customer, traded me a very nice airco cutting torch for some sandblasting work. I found a bunch of old O2, propane, and acetylene tanks in the basement of our old work building (5 tanks total I believe). I went to the welding supply co and they told me they do not refill privatly owned tanks. Basically I traded in those old tanks for a lifetime rental O2 and acetylene tank. Costs $17 to fill the O2 and $26 for the acetylene. I also got a argon tank for my mig kit there ($70). I like the idea of lifetime rental because I do not have to wait for the tanks to be filled/tested. And since I trade my tanks in each time they are responsible for testing the tanks and replacing a bad tank/valve, etc... If your tank is ever damaged or a valve goes bad it is your cost to fix.
     
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    hmmm... I'll have to look into it, the only reason I liked it was it was a complete setup and I could use my sears card. What do you guys think of the sears torchs (Craftsmen)?

    port-a-torch setup

    the bigger craftsmen torch minus the tanks

    Botha re actually cheaper at the store /forums/images/graemlins/deal.gif
     
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    those are the kits that i wouldnt do to much heavy cutting with. if you do get those and cut alot with them just keep an eye how much acetalene you use so you dont suck the acetone out.
     
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    For light cutting just buy a $99 kit from harbor freight (sears probably sells one like it too) and use Propane & Oxygen. Propane is cheaper and lasts longer than actelyn. All you need to do is buy a propane tip to use with the regulator/hose kit. Then you can use the same 5# propane bottle as used on a gas grill (which you may already have).
     
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    Calclips 1/2 ton status

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    If you check around on ebay you can find a set of regulators, hoses, and usually a couple of different heads and tips for quite a bit cheaper than what sears wants. I know I looked around a couple of weeks ago and saw quite a few sets in the 100 dollar range.
     

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