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Need help with bodymounts ASAP

Discussion in '1973-1991 K5 Blazer | Truck | Suburban' started by jarheadk5, Jul 6, 2001.

  1. jarheadk5

    jarheadk5 1/2 ton status

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    OK, found some more damage today from the July 4th fun. I now have <font color=red>two<font color=black> broken bodymounts! The right front, as seen in these pics:
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    and now the passenger side, front cab support bodymount (pics tomorrow AM). The second one worries me. The bolthead is about 1" away from the washer on the rubber, doesn't turn or go in & out by hand. What scares me is that there appears to be no nut that can be accessed. Does this bolt thread into a blind nut or a receptacle inside the front cab support? I can't tell if the bolt is just broken (bad), or if the blind nut/receptacle rusted out and pulled out of the cab support (MUCH worse). Any help you can give is appreciated. I can take any pics you need to see, I'm off tomorrow and the digicam is ready. Thanks...

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    Re: Need help with bodymounts

    You need to fix the url tags. It shows the whole bottom half of the post as a clickable. Not working right.

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  3. scrapmetal

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    Re: Need help with bodymounts

    body mounts?? you don't need no stinkin body mounts,,

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    Re: Need help with bodymounts

    OK, links are fixed.

    And YES, I DO NEED BODYMOUNTS!! This is my daily driver, and my truck is due for inspection in August, and I'll be in CA for the last half of July, unable to work on it.

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    Re: Need help with bodymounts

    <font color=purple> Ouch !

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    Re: Need help with bodymounts

    Never seen that happen before...did you run over a horse?



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  7. jarheadk5

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    Re: Need help with bodymounts

    No, nothing so fun... Basically it's rust damage from 14 years of Pennsylvania & New Jersey winters. My wheeling trip on July 4th apparently caused enough stress to break the big washer between the bolthead and rubber donut on the front right mount. Sitting level it's fine; put the left front tire on something and the frame drops away from the body on the right, just as the first pic shows.


    Can anyone tell me about that front cab support?

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  8. dyeager535

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    IIRC, those body mounts you are worried about thread into one of the body seams. Not positive, but if its not a nut GM tack-welded to the body, its one of those captured nuts that are a pain to fix if they rust apart...bolt spins, doesn't come loose. Soak everything real well in penetrant before attempting anything.

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    Front one is easy, I can get to the nut through the radiator support. It's the front cab support I'm worried about. It MUST be a blind nut, because there's NO access to get to where a normal nut would be. UGGHHH...

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    Re: Need help with bodymounts

    I'm pretty sure someone recently had this same thing happen...although they may have been doing a body lift.

    If I recall the advice was to take some measurments and cut an access hole from above the body support that the bolt threads into to access the captured nut. I think its a square headed affair in there. After the nut and bolt have been removed and a new nut tacked or somehow replaced the bd one the small hole is patched.

    Let me do some searching, I may not be able to remeber who posted but I remember someone who responded.

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    Re: Need help with bodymounts

    OK Ken...i found the original post.

    <A target="_blank" HREF=http://www.coloradok5.com/forums/showthreaded.pl?Cat=&Board=blazer4x4&Number=144279&page=&view=&sb=&vc=1#Post144279>http://www.coloradok5.com/forums/showthreaded.pl?Cat=&Board=blazer4x4&Number=144279&page=&view=&sb=&vc=1#Post144279</A>

    The link will take you to the original post and a summary of all the subsequent replies. Take the time to read them all as i know it applies to your situation...

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    Bad luck [​IMG]

    I think you will have to check the rest of them also. Like it has allready been said, the four mounts under the cab on each side goes into the crossmember and into a welded consealed "nut"
    Two options, 1. Remove seats and carpet, messure out where the nut is and cut either a cross that you fold back four ways (easyer to weld back) or use a tool that lets you cut a perfect circle and put a rubber plug or simular, the same diameter in after for future inspection,/retightning.

    Option 2. Take the grinder to the crossmember and cut a wide enough part out for you to reach the nut that way.(messy + you wont see worth a rats a#&`)

    Most likely you will not get this done in a hurry, there will be more rust, and more problems as you go along. If you go in from the top you will be able to strenghten these points with some thich steel used as "washers" and a new nut. It may not look as nice afterwords but it will be consealed under the carpet so thats not really a problem.

    I would do all 4 cab-mounts at the same time. The two under the radiator you can reach through a acceshole in the radiator suport, but I think I remember having to take the bumper off to get to them comfortably.

    The 4 rear mounts in the bed, can also be strengtened with square pieces of steel with holes drilled through them, used as big "washers"
    If you do this and all goes well, you can weld all the square pieces fast and do the cosmetic adjustments then.

    Buy new rubber/polytren body bushings and replace them now while you will be doing all this work anyway.

    If you take pictures of the process I know you'l have one hell of a writeupp on bodymount troubles.

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    Just make sure you torque them properly. :)

    Just kidding. My friend had the same problem with his body lift. I suggest you drill large holes in the floor and do whatever is necessary to repair it. That's what he had to do.

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    Ahhh, thanks everyone. This is the kind of support that lets me say to my wife "THIS is why I spend so much time on the friggin' computer!"
    Rene, thanks for looking that thread up for me. Normally I'll search a little before I post a ?, but I was a little frazzled by the implications of what I saw...
    Tim, I'll be sure to use a torque wrench on EVERY bolt I see![​IMG][​IMG]

    Looking briefly in the light of a new day, the front cab support mount looks as if it lost the rubber donut, but still has the big washer. I'll be going back out shortly to take a few pics.

    FYI, I've got a 3" bodylift already, and plenty of rust damage to the cargo floor & tailpan. I'm planning to build a new tailpan (Mudzer's design in the Tech section), ditch the 3" in favor of the ORD 1", but that can't happen until I do the suspension lift (4"), and that'll probably be a while...

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