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Need locker help

Discussion in 'The Garage' started by odoa3, Nov 10, 2005.

  1. odoa3

    odoa3 1/2 ton status

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    I am trying to decide what locker to put in the front of the K5. I am swapping in a Dana 60 next spring, and rebuilding it this winter. I am concerned with loosing my turning radius, the little bit I do have with a full spool in the rear. I will have crossover steering to help with the turning as well. I run in mostly mud and trails with a few rock piles here and there. I would like to put a regular Detroit locker in it. Will I be sorry?

    Also, anyone know anything about the Detroit NoSpin? Good, bad, unknown? It seems like it would have a little more give to it for the turning. I just can't find much information about it.

    Thanks for any help or info.
     
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    The No-Spin is a Detroit Locker.
    I have one in my D60 and the turning radius does suck in the long bed, but i deal with it. If i had crossover i am sure it would help.
     
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    Crossover or with Hydro assist will help. You can always unlock one hub for easier turning when need be. I would just Detroit it since I couldnt afford to go with an ARB or the likes.
     
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    Readymix- With the NoSpin have you ever felt like you needed the original Detroit locker? Does it lock up pretty solid, so both front tires are pulling 100%, or do you feel one tire give up? I liked the idea of some give for turning, but I really wanted it to lock up hard when i was on the gas. Can you give me some real life experiences with it, both good and bad?
    Thanks, much appreciated.
     
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    go detroit. I have one in my 60, no regrets at all. Turning radius is increased... but i have hydro assist and if I really want/need to crank it, I can. Usually I just make multiple-point turns so I'm not needlessly overworking the steering system etc though.

    j
     
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    The NoSpin and Detroit Locker work the same way, just different packaging for different applications.................technically the NoSpin is the drop-in style that just replaces the spider and side gears in a two piece case commonly found in 14-bolts, Rockwells, and other big truck pieces. The Detroit Locker is a full case replacement made for light truck and car applications that have a one piece carrier (Dana 60's, 10-bolts, etc....).

    I've ran many trails with several different people with both open front diffs, selectables like ARBs, and full-time lockers. Watching them from outside the vehicle in tight turns on the trail it's really hard to tell which is which. It's not like the full-time locker guys are having a noticably tougher time making a sharp turn around a tree. I've personally ran a limited slip front and a full-locker in the front and noticed very little difference with turning ability. There has never been a time where I said "gee, I wish I had a selectable locker so I could unlock it for this turn". Out of the several guys I run with on a regular basis all of them have that same opinion.
     
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    As stated above the No-Spin and the Detroit Locker are one and the same. I love having it in my truck front and rear axles. It can make turning in the tight trails a PITA but it is worth it. Having one in the rear is not so bad. My truck has a SM465 so it acts more like a spool around corners.
     
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    Thanks guys! :waytogo: Never had a front locker before so want to be fully informed. The regular Detroit is the way I really want to go for reliability so this is reasuring.
     
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    If you want to offroad the truck hard there in no replacement for a full locker in the front. The turning isn't great but you will get used to it. Crossover makes it better and hydro makes it even better then that. For a D60 and reliability I would only choose the Detroit locker. It is tried and true in thousands of rigs with minimal failures.

    Harley
     
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    how is that?
     
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    Been running with a locker in the front of my K5 for a long time. Locked in rear too. Dont have a D60. Just running 10 bolts. But. I have no problems.Usually run with 1 hub unlocked til i need it to avoid unneeded wear and tear on my poor o'l 10 bolts. Detroit IMHO is the best.
     
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    I think I understand what he is saying with this. I have the 465 as well and I don't know that it makes it act more like a spool but without a torque converter to soften the input to the axles you will notice it kicking in and out a lot more than with an auto tranny. The lockers engage with torque being applied to them and it is quite a bit more obvious with the manual than any of the auto tranny trucks i've driven. Almost unfriendly on the street as opposed to not even knowing its there.
     
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    I would recommend a selectable locker of some sort. Ox,ARB, something like that. I am going to run one of the ox lockers in mine. I dont want to deal with the on road problems with a front detroit and i dont want to get out and unlock one hub just to turn easyer on the trail. I like the fact that i can lock and unlock the ox and they seem plenty stout enough. The only bad thing i see is the cost of the ox over a detroit.
     
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    Exactly. Along the same note.....it does not bother me though. The cops on the base here gove me dirty looks though when i turn a corner. :haha:
     
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    :D Yeah you get used to it. At least its always there reminding you to go offroading by chirping and banging at you lol
     
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    Go Detroit and you'll understand.... It's "THE" best.Period.:D
     

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