I'm not sure if I noted that I luckily located my Smith and Wesson knife. It was hiding out in a pair of pants I was about to wash. Here is the new knife I got this week. Spyderco Endura, 3 15/16" blade I won't carry it, the legal limit in PA is 4" and its just too close for comfort in a daily carrying knife. It weighs about 2/3rd of what my smaller Smith and Wesson does, but is still sturdy. Its a nasty knife. Its a Christmas present from Tshy. I got it wednesday with that hedgehog poster I already posted.