Dismiss Notice

Welcome To CK5!

Registering is free and easy! Hope to see you on the forums soon.

Score a FREE t-shirt and membership sticker when you sign up for a Premium Membership and choose the recurring plan.

! NEW ! - ORD High Steer Arms......Installation w/Pics!!!

Discussion in 'OffRoad Design' started by Greg72, May 31, 2003.

  1. Greg72

    Greg72 "Might As Well..." Staff Member Super Moderator

    Joined:
    Mar 5, 2001
    Posts:
    15,681
    Likes Received:
    1,392
    Location:
    642 Days to BB2018
    I got the ORD High Steer Arms recently, and just got them installed today. As expected, the quality is awesome and everything fit beautifully.

    Check out the pics here:

    COOL HIGHSTEER!!!




    Thanks Stephen! /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif
     
  2. zakk

    zakk 1/2 ton status

    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2001
    Posts:
    4,762
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    San Jose CA
    still worries me when ram steer is added....
     
  3. Greg72

    Greg72 "Might As Well..." Staff Member Super Moderator

    Joined:
    Mar 5, 2001
    Posts:
    15,681
    Likes Received:
    1,392
    Location:
    642 Days to BB2018
    [ QUOTE ]
    still worries me when ram steer is added....

    [/ QUOTE ]

    ?????


    Strength worries or lack of space for the ram itself? /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif
     
  4. zakk

    zakk 1/2 ton status

    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2001
    Posts:
    4,762
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    San Jose CA
    [ QUOTE ]
    [ QUOTE ]
    still worries me when ram steer is added....

    [/ QUOTE ]

    ?????


    Strength worries or lack of space for the ram itself? /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif




    [/ QUOTE ]

    both. the ORD arm look like they can withstand nuclear bombardment, its the stock knuckles that have a hard time. Not a common break, but not exactly an easy trail fix. No spare knuckles in my box /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

    edit: I couldn't really see in the pics, but any ideas on where the ram might go?
     
  5. Greg72

    Greg72 "Might As Well..." Staff Member Super Moderator

    Joined:
    Mar 5, 2001
    Posts:
    15,681
    Likes Received:
    1,392
    Location:
    642 Days to BB2018
    I know what you're saying about the knuckles..... I seem to recall that Stephen mentioned something about his design being less torturous on the knuckles than others (perhaps the fact that they are NOT overly long arms, in fact the DS one is downright stubby! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif)

    I've seen the gruesome pics of broken knuckles, but I also "temper" those visuals with the understanding that the folks that ARE breaking those parts wheel a LOT harder than I probably ever will. I haven't spent much time cross-referencing knuckle breakage to the type of vehicle (though I'd be guessing buggy/truggy) or driving style (I'd wager "slow with finesse" wouldn't apply! /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif) so maybe I might see examples of "Reg-yer-ler old 1-Ton K5s" breaking knuckles on moderately difficult trails...?

    As for the ram, my first guesses are that is will fit beautifully behind the draglink and might attach with a custom bracket off the top of the D60? There was more space around the setup than I was expecting to see, so that is encouraging.

    Now that I don't have a stabilizer anymore (or maybe because the truck hasn't moved in 2 months and the tires are lumpy) there is a wobble in the steering. Not "death", but more than I recall with the damper installed. It's too soon to come to conclusions on this one though.
     
  6. ducttape114

    ducttape114 1/2 ton status

    Joined:
    Aug 1, 2002
    Posts:
    990
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Orcutt Ca
    looks dead sexy greg!!!! cant wait till mine get here!!
     
  7. Greg72

    Greg72 "Might As Well..." Staff Member Super Moderator

    Joined:
    Mar 5, 2001
    Posts:
    15,681
    Likes Received:
    1,392
    Location:
    642 Days to BB2018
    I thought you already DID high-steer?

    Or was that BlaizinAire?....... I know ONE of the tall guys did it! /forums/images/graemlins/rotfl.gif
     
  8. Stephen

    Stephen 1/2 ton status Moderator Vendor

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2000
    Posts:
    4,227
    Likes Received:
    142
    Location:
    Carbondale Colorado
    The stress on the knuckle is set by the torque required to move the tire so there's not much we can do about that with the arms. What we can control is the stress on the tie rod by keeping it as far outboard as possible which we did for these arms. Lower stress on the tie rod basically translates into longer life from the ends.
    Interesting things to notice in Greg's pics:
    -Lots of clearance between the spring and tie rod
    -his axle is moved forward about 1"
    Nice pics, thanks Greg.
     
  9. Blazinaire

    Blazinaire 1/2 ton status

    Joined:
    Mar 17, 2002
    Posts:
    1,262
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Santa Maria, CA
    [ QUOTE ]
    I thought you already DID high-steer?

    Or was that BlaizinAire?....... I know ONE of the tall guys did it! /forums/images/graemlins/rotfl.gif





    [/ QUOTE ] That was me thank you very much! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
     
  10. Seventy4Blazer

    Seventy4Blazer 3/4 ton status

    Joined:
    Apr 21, 2001
    Posts:
    5,634
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Escondido, CA
    Greg,
    Few questions
    -what was the total cost including the shims?
    -why 8* shims? you got a 2 inch longer shackle? and zero rates?

    thanks man.
    Grant
     
  11. Greg72

    Greg72 "Might As Well..." Staff Member Super Moderator

    Joined:
    Mar 5, 2001
    Posts:
    15,681
    Likes Received:
    1,392
    Location:
    642 Days to BB2018
    [ QUOTE ]
    Greg,
    Few questions
    -what was the total cost including the shims?
    -why 8* shims? you got a 2 inch longer shackle? and zero rates?

    thanks man.
    Grant

    [/ QUOTE ]



    Grant,

    The arms are $300...then you add in TRE's, the tie rod, at least one stud kit (two if you didn't already have crossover) .

    The shims had nothing to do with the High Steer. I had 12* of caster due to my custom springs. They are 45" long (instead of 44") and the spring pin is forward 1" over stock. Since that puts the axle further "up the smile" of the spring, the pinion rotates DOWN more than normal.....that's why instead of 6* of caster, I ended up with 12*. The shims allowed me to rotate the pinion back up to around 6* which should give me better street manners.

    BTW -> The front shackles are the ORD ones....the 2" longer shackles I built are intalled on the rear springs. No zero rates at all on Stomper....Mini-Me has a 1" zero-rate in the rear to cure "saggy butt".
    /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
     
  12. Seventy4Blazer

    Seventy4Blazer 3/4 ton status

    Joined:
    Apr 21, 2001
    Posts:
    5,634
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Escondido, CA
    oh, ok.
    thanks for the info, once again it all looks great.
    Grant
     
  13. DPI

    DPI 1/2 ton status

    Joined:
    Jun 22, 2000
    Posts:
    2,792
    Likes Received:
    1
    Location:
    In the Burbs close to Tulsa, OK
    Hey Greg - The set-up looks great. Have you put anymore thought in how the ram willl mount? Is there enough room to mount it on one of the spring plates? Maybe building a bracket that utilizes the ubolts? Those arms look super beefy! I like them.
     
  14. CK5

    CK5 In my underwear Administrator Premium Member GMOTM Winner Author

    Joined:
    May 19, 1999
    Posts:
    21,623
    Likes Received:
    701
    Location:
    CO
    There sould be room for the ram to mount on the diff somewhere like mine, I will be running these arms also very soon. /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif
     
  15. boz42

    boz42 1/2 ton status GMOTM Winner

    Joined:
    Jun 3, 2003
    Posts:
    3,181
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Hopewell, Tn 38058
    that is sweet!! if any of you have pics of a hi-steer w/ a ram i would love to see them. getting ready to do mine & could use some ideas.
     
  16. Eric M.

    Eric M. 1/2 ton status

    Joined:
    Dec 10, 2001
    Posts:
    2,118
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Oakland, CA
    Hey Greg ..... you gonna be selling your old crossover steering arm?!

    Eric M.
     
  17. CK5

    CK5 In my underwear Administrator Premium Member GMOTM Winner Author

    Joined:
    May 19, 1999
    Posts:
    21,623
    Likes Received:
    701
    Location:
    CO
  18. boz42

    boz42 1/2 ton status GMOTM Winner

    Joined:
    Jun 3, 2003
    Posts:
    3,181
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Hopewell, Tn 38058
    thanks! coloradok5
     
  19. jekbrown

    jekbrown I am CK5 Premium Member GMOTM Winner Author

    Joined:
    May 19, 2001
    Posts:
    45,030
    Likes Received:
    363
    Location:
    Vancouver, WA, USA
    how much lift u have on ur rig again? seems like there would be clearance issues with my puny lil 5" of suspension lift...

    j
     
  20. CK5

    CK5 In my underwear Administrator Premium Member GMOTM Winner Author

    Joined:
    May 19, 1999
    Posts:
    21,623
    Likes Received:
    701
    Location:
    CO
    I run 4" suspension lift in the front. /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif
     

Share This Page