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New to me 14boltFF, needs diagnosis update with pic

Discussion in 'The Garage' started by stoney126, Mar 8, 2007.

  1. stoney126

    stoney126 1/2 ton status

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    hey all, I recently got a free 14 bolt, however it has a problem. I tried turning the yoke by hand and moves about an inch or two, and moves the axles as well. Then it justs stops. Is this normal? I have yet to take anything apart, thought I would get your guys opinion first. I figure I should pull the cover first then go to the axles themselves then the drums? Any help is appreciated
     
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    Probably the brakes stopping it.If you wanna know whats going on with it pull the cover and check things out.Glad to hear you got a free 14bolt.I had to pay $250 for mine and then turn around and rebuild it.
     
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    checking things out inside would be a really good idea. But cover doesn't HAVE to come off first. Sure tis not brake drag? After all properly adjusted drum brakes do drag a little, and overly adjusted ones drag a lot.
     
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    DEMON44 Low-Tech Redneck

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    Not normal for sure, like said already check the brakes first. if not that don't heave-ho into a big snipe to try to turn it until you take the cover off and verify theres no broken teeth or foreign material stuck in the ring gear/
     
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    Mine was almost just like you described, except that i could turn the pinion yoke but only i couldnt get the right side to turn.So i just unadjusted the brakes and now it turns fine.
     
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    My drum brakes on my 12b did the exact same thing. Had me really worried at first
     
  7. stoney126

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    cool, gonna back the brakes off some see if that helps. I figure ill pull the cover anyway to check the condition of the internals and give it some fresh oil to sit in :D

    On a side not Nobody wanted to help me get the axle out of my truck so im working on it in the bed :D
     
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    76zimmer Flyin Rat Premium Member GMOTM Winner

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    Now there's dedication, working on it in bed....:bow:
     
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    :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha:

    No no the pickup bed, the wife doesnt like car parts on her side of the bed
     
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    ok I backed the the star off some actually a good deal. Both drums move but it is the same distance as before. The pinion moves the same as well. I pulled the cover to find this, no fluid in it at all. So what do I do next?

    axle.jpg
     
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    All that rust worries me about the bearings. I haven't enough knowledge to offer any viable advice but rust is bad in every language.
     
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    Hmm....maybe that's why it was free. I'm almost sure those bolts aren't going to be fun getting out. I'm sure the bearings are shot.
     
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    Go get the whole thing acid or blasted clean.
    Then replace the bearings for a start.
     
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    It is open and 4.10 and down case so perfect for a detroit and 5.13s in the thick variety:D .

    Ira
     
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    meh no money for new gears:( what am I looking at to get this working? Should I even bother doing this myself or go pro?
     
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    A master install kit will give you everything you need minus lube for the center section and I would also replace the wheel bearings and races since they probably look the same. I have a dial indicator and mag base and also access to an inch pounds torque wrench so I would do it myself and save some cash.

    Ira
     
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    ok So I should I start by pulling it completely apart?
     
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    Yeah. I would tear it down and take the gears, carrier, and housing somewhere that can acid dip or blast, like readymix said. Take sandawgk5's advice and pick you up an install kit. 14 bolts are said to be the easiest axle to set up gears in. There are reviews of the process on Pirate I believe.
    Here is pretty much anything you want to know about the 14 bolt. With even more links to other sources of information. http://www.pirate4x4.com/articles/tech/billavista/PR-ARB/articles/14b_Gear_Setup
     
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    What's this going in? You still have the V3500?
     

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