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Now what? <--14ff help...

Discussion in 'The Garage' started by Avery4jc, Nov 18, 2006.

  1. Avery4jc

    Avery4jc 1 ton status Premium Member GMOTM Winner

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    Ok, a cherry picker, floor jack, two jack stands, a BF socket wrench and some panther piss later I got the bolts on the end of my 14ff off...I slid the axle out and the splines and shaft look perfect so I set it aside and put a bucket under the axle to catch the drops of fluid coming out...

    So now what? I thought there was supposed to be a big nut (everyone said I needed a big special socket to get it off) but I don't see it...unless its a weird looking nut and I don't recognize it...looks like a star w/ a hole (for the shaft to fit through).

    So....

    -A
     
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    The bolts hold the shaft in. After you have the shaft out, there are 2 nuts that need that special socket so you can get the drum off.
     
  3. Avery4jc

    Avery4jc 1 ton status Premium Member GMOTM Winner

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    Ok, I just went out there and looked again and they are nuts...just weird looking little suckers...
    I'll go to Auto Zone and see if they have a socket for it.

    -Avery
     
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    its a rear axle nut socket, i believe 4 prong for a 14bff...
     
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    just did mine the other day - it requires a 6 prong unit.
     
  6. Avery4jc

    Avery4jc 1 ton status Premium Member GMOTM Winner

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    I just got one from the parts store...along w/ some paint to finish them off, couple gallons of 80w90, some RTV and I'm going back w/ the shoes and cylinders after I get them off to get those....

    So when I pulled the axle shafts out some oil came out...should it be in there or is that a sign that its leaking through the axle tube from the gears?

    -A
     
  7. Confedneck79K30

    Confedneck79K30 3/4 ton status

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    no it will come out like that, the seals are the hubs...
     
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    That oil is what lubes the bearings. It's important that they have oil in them after you put it back together.
     
  9. Avery4jc

    Avery4jc 1 ton status Premium Member GMOTM Winner

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    That was my next question...Do I just pour some of that oil on the bearings and seal it back up or do I need to do something else? Then I will take the cover off of the diff and inspect stuff...then put the cover back on and fill it back up to the top (doing all of this after I put the axle shafts back in).

    -Avery
     
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    when you take the cover off, all the oil will come out, so don't put any in the axle tubes before you pull the cover. do all your inspecting, put it back together, fill thru the little hole on the side of the pumpkin until it dribbles out of the hole, put the bolt back in and you're done.
     
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    Avery4jc 1 ton status Premium Member GMOTM Winner

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    but how will it get to the bearings if I'm just filling up the pumpkin? Does it fling it through the axle tube down to the bearings?

    -Avery
     
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    i would put some bearing grease in the wheel bearings before i assembled the rear end, that way they arent dry before they get oiled...
     
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    Put gear oil on the bearings, do not use grease. The gear oil makes its way down the axle shafts and into the wheel hub to lube the bearings.
     
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    well, consider that the axle shaft attatch to the gears in the pumpkin, so therefore the axle tubes are connected to the pumpkin. if you add to the pumpkin, the fluid will go into the tubes. take a look down the axle tube, and see whatcha see. ;)

    edit. y'all beat me to it. :)
     
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    i fill the axle up on level ground first until fluid comes out of the centerscetion. Then i jack up each side a little for fluid to drain probably 10 minutes per side. Then i fill the diff back up to where fluid is coming out then i plug it up. Takes about a gallon or so.
     
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    there also is a lock pin that holds the nuts in place
     
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    This is what I do also. It doesn't take long and you know the bearings are oiled this way.
     
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    can that be done in the 10b as well, or just the 14ff?
     
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    10 bolt rear, yes. It isn't as important on the 10 bolt axle since there is no hub that needs filled with oil.
     
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    Yeah I saw that little snap ring when I was looking at stuff...


    Ok, so I just went outside to check it out and guess what...yep, its the wrong one...so WTH brothers...

    It was the only one they had too so I don't know what to do...it is basically the same size, has 6 pins but it just doesn't fit. So I'm taking it back tomorrow and I'll see what they say. They are pretty dumb though...I had to pass on the brakes because they didn't know what a 14ff had...I told them to just type in a '78 3/4 ton suburban but it was just too difficult for them I guess. Who knows.

    Ok so is there a specific size I can tell them I need for that socket thingy or what? I know everyone told me to tell them that I needed it for a 14ff but they couldn't even get the brake parts so I doubt they'll be able to get the socket for the pinion nut (found out what its "real" name is, lol, I'm slow)

    -A
     

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