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Discussion in '1973-1991 K5 Blazer | Truck | Suburban' started by thatK30guy, Sep 19, 2001.

  1. thatK30guy

    thatK30guy 1 ton status Premium Member

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    .....why my driver side tire contacts the pitman arm and drag link on full right hand turns.

    The tires are 31 x 10.5 x 15 on 15 x 8 stock Rally wheels.
    The stop bolts are where they need to be and not broken or missing the nuts or weld.

    Anybody else have this problem?

    BTW, this is the first GM vehicle I have ever had that did this rubbing. [​IMG]

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    Murphy's Law? Tear in the frame? Broken shock mounts or front body mounts?

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    The stops are adjustable...My Jimmy does that with my 35's, but not with my 36's. The 36's are mounted to rims with way more offset though.

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    Nope, nothing torn, broke, missing, etc. Everything is there and good. Except for the tire rubbing the pitman arm. [​IMG]

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    Rene, since Blazers come from the factory with either the 235 or 31" tires, I couldnt figure why they would rub with the stock Rally wheels.

    It must be something else. I dont know. I was going to check the ball joints to see if they may be shot or sloppy. Think that could cause some rubs?

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    Mine does it too - not close enough for the rim itself to rub, but it tears the balance weights off on full right hand turns.

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    OK....this is just a rambling uninformed guess. What's the piece that comes off the steering box called (I've heard about three different names from people)? If someone had that off at one point, and reinstalled it in a different position(like off the factory position by 5 degrees by accident), wouldn't that allow the front end linkages to go farther ONE WAY than they should?

    Like I said, I'm just looking at it from a different angle......



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    If you are referring to the 'pitman arm', then the K-series arms are not able to be moved around. They go in only one way. They have that bolt going thru them to clamp them to the shaft on the box. Cant turn these pitman arms either way. [​IMG]

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    My '87 does the same exact thing, with 33x12.5R15 BFG AT's on 15x8 American AR-23's. Not sure how much backspacing my wheels have, but I don't think it's right.
    I've been trying to figure out an easy solution to this that doesn't involve adjusting the stops and reducing my turning radius, but I haven't thought of anything.


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    I dont think adjusting the stops should have to be done. They are set from the factory and should not require any modifications to them.

    Makes you think, when the Blazer left the assembly line, it steered fine and dandy. Otherwise if it didnt, they would have never let the truck off the line.

    Something is fishy with these steering problems!!!

    Keep in mind, I have never had this problem on any other truck I had. And this is my first Blazer!!! [​IMG]

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    31x10.5 are about 2 inches wider than the stock tires plus any difference in wheel width or offset. You may just need to adjust the stops out a hair to compensate. On my K20 with 235X85X16 there was only about a 1/2" of clearance stock at full turn.

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    Most pitman arms have 4 "keyways" 90 deg. apart to position them so that if you get it on it will be obvious its wrong. As Wes said the K series (4x4) is not done that way. It will only go 1 way.

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    Yeah ok, the pitman arm...Got it!!! Now I can say I learned two things today- the name of that "piece" and the fact that it can't be put on wrong!!!! I'm sure I've heard people call it some other names too, though. Thanks Wesley.........



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    HAHAHAHA WES! You could not have ever worked at a dealership! Cars and trucks leave the plant all the time that are not assembled correct, half a$$ put together, and just generally screwed up! They are just fixed before they hit the sales lot if it is caught. Makes ya feel good about spending 30 grand on a car you think is perfect! Most will be fine but I have seen some truly bizzare(sp) stuff over the yrs. From stuff that is wrong to practical jokes a line worker thot would be funny as hell! I have found Pepsi cans inside of rocker panels. Heard of a fishing weight tied to fishing line and dropped into a center post to make a noise when the car is driven but hard to find because its tied off w/ the fishing line. When they found it it also had a little note on the line that said "I bet this was a bitch to find!" [​IMG] True story!

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    [​IMG] ROTFLMFAO!!! [​IMG]

    Yeah, that would have been fricking hilarious to find that note!!! [​IMG]

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    I worked at the dealership that happened at, It was a few yrs before I worked there and people still talked about it because the owner was gonna lemon law the van because of it! The dealership owner said to strip it down to bare steel inside and search EVERY sq. in. till it was found! Needless to say everyone thot it was hillarious except the van owner.

    The pepsi can I found was inside the rocker of a 69 Camaro. No way for it to get there except to be put there on the line. Id like to know how many went out w/ cans in them! Ive seen some truely strange stuff in cars. [​IMG]

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    Can you imagine the owner of the 69 Camaro driving down the road listening to some 'rattling' coming from the car!!! [​IMG] [​IMG]

    Especially when he drove it home from the lot and crapped his shorts!!! [​IMG] [​IMG]

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    Is the steering wheel straight?
    Is the lockplate that's under the steering wheel modified?

    My car (85 Cutlass, RWD) did the same thing, except the passenger tire hit the sway bar when I neared full lock. After much trial (months messing with tie rods, etc.) I figured out by removing the intermediate shaft (shaft that connects steering column to steering box) that a PO had for some reason removed the shaft, and not installed it correctly. The steering box "input shaft" has a nub on it, that you are SUPPOSED to use to center the steering shaft. However, they removed that, and installed the shaft off center.

    Without looking in the manual or looking at my truck. The pitman arm is likely supposed to be oriented exactly front to rear, (or trucks with drag link, side to side??) when the wheels are straight ahead, and the steering wheel is "on center"

    Its a lot more work to put the stuff back together the "wrong way" but my cars PO did it, maybe your trucks PO did as well. Should be easy enough to see. If wheels, drag link and steering wheel line up, and the lock plate isn't modified, then thats not the cause : )



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    Well the can was kinda wedged in there so It didnt make any noise. At least the 1 I worked on anyway. LOL!

    The fishing weight on the other hand was loose in there TO rattle!

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    AH YES! I remembered another! 2000 Mustang GT conv. Had a rolling and then a thud sound in it. It turned out to be a 13 MM socket that was dropped in the rocker at the factory. It was a kool socket too, unlike anything Id ever seen. It had a standard 3/8 drive on it but some kind of different manufacturer name I didnt recognize, and it was magnetic.

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