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oil filter change question

Discussion in 'The Garage' started by thfonz98, Mar 1, 2005.

  1. thfonz98

    thfonz98 1/2 ton status

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    i want to take the pos fram off of mine and replace it.

    i just had the oil changed and dont need to take all the oil out.

    if i take the oil filter off i 'should' only lose the oil in the filter and a little bit ~ 1 quart?

    fram bad :shame:
     
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    remove with one hand and replace with the other. as fast as you can. get prepared to have oil all over your arm, but shouldnt be too bad.

    check oil, fill if needed.
     
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    I wouldn't worry about one Fram filter killing your motor. I'd leave it on there until the next oil change, then do all your oil at the same time.

    I don't like Fram either, but I used them for a long time, and quite simply, I don't have the ability to measure how much more wear running Fram filters for XXXXXX miles caused vs. a different, better filter.

    Now that I know better, I don't use them, but if someone put one on my new motor for some reason, I wouldn't sweat it.
     
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    Yep.
    I always drive a large nail through the bottom of my filters and let the oil drain out so I don't get a mess all over the place.
     
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    You will lose a little more than just what is in the filter but no more that 2qrts. Napa gold are the best oil filters I have found.
     
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    whats so bad about fram filters?

    iv always used ac-delco filters
     
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    napa filters are just repainted and reboxed WIX, i try to use them also. but normally i use carquest because they are only 2 blocks away.
     
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    ever notice the carquest # looks like a wix !


    and great info link on the filter cutaways.:thumb:
     
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    I wouldn't worry about it. vw bug motors dont have real oil filters and they have no problems running for a long time.
     
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    VW's !!!

    Yeah.what a joke the VW beetles had for an oil filter--looked like a peice of window screen!--or a sink trap!--every time I took the one out of my beetles I had years ago,the screen was full of grey mud and mayonaise looking goop--I never understood how they lasted as long as they did with only that screen for a filter,and only 2-1/2 qts of oil!(that nobody ever changed by the looks of it--every VW I had the oil looked like tar..)..Guess it says a lot for VW's durability,if you can run them that dirty and they still live..:crazy:
     
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    Air-cooled engines also have "looser" tolerances than liquid-cooled engines... hence a VW Bug's apparent ability to drive on with crap in the oil that would kill a liquid-cooled motor.
     
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    Thats because it is a wix filter. I believe it even says so on the box.

    re; The fram. I wouldn't bother changing it till its time to change the oil. They are not great filters but they wont kill your engine. I dont like them (frams) because their anti drain back valves dont work for crap. I have an oil cooler and I dont like the idea of all my oil draining out of it and having dry start issues. I have also had a fram filter's innards come loose on me. Never will use another one again.
    Usually use AC delco or Carquest filters.
     
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    bearing clearences look the same to me. So that theory goes down the drain.
     
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    On all of my motors, I plug the bypass in the filter pad. (Why you ask, take a used pad off and see how weak the spring is at 30 psi it's opening and not filtering your oil. with regular oil changes and castrol, my motors are VERY CLEAN at >100,000 miles) Last fram filter I used was 7 or 8 years ago and it collapsed with 20 minutes of run time, leaving me 0 oil pressure. After limping home, I pulled the pan in truck, checked main and rod bearings, they were fine, changed out oil pump, still had no oil pressure, changed the filter and had 60 psi again. Haven't had a fram since....
     
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    actually im almost shure he is right, the clearance in the cylinders is alot looser to allow for the expansion of the head, and every air cooled dirt bike i have ever worked on had a screen, my 2 current bikes XR650R, CBR929RR both water cooled have filters.......

    Im thinkin he is right
     
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    heres the bearing clearances for the crankshaft
    one for a fiero .013-.56 mm
    one for a bug .04 - .10 mm
    one for an aircooled(street) 83 honda 550 motorcycle .019-.043 mm
     

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