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OK guys, gotta couple new problems... need help

Discussion in '1973-1991 K5 Blazer | Truck | Suburban' started by solowookie, Sep 5, 2001.

  1. solowookie

    solowookie 1/2 ton status

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    OK guys, I finally got the peice that holds the solid seal for the rear of the cam shaft today, and got it put on OK...

    well I was looking in my Chiltons & it told me to torque it to 100 'inch' pounds... well you can see what I did from there, I didn't read real closely, and set my torque rench to 100 'foot' pounds... [​IMG]

    I kept thinkin, man that is just too much for those little bolts so I didn't torque it down that far... but LOL well the bolts that go into that rear peice that holds the rear seal got stripped out...

    I got 2 questions... #1 I'm assuming I can retap that, but my other question would be is there another way I can re-make those threads other then taping, and #2 can I just put a longer bolt in and then put a nut in on the other side - or hit some deaper threads...

    #2 question would be I am assuming that 100 'inch' pounds would be converted to 'foot' pounds by just dividing by 12??? (which would be 8.333 foot pounds - sounds more like it).

    I don't know if anybody has used a gasket like they provided me... it is one complete gasket - without being broken into peices - which is rubber with a metal core on the long runs, and straight rubber in the parts that go up & over... I am assuming that I do not need a silicone sealant to go on this, and I don't need a good bunch of gasket maker at the corners... (I did not put any on)

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  2. hammer

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    you can you a helicoil for the thread you buggerd. YES 100 inch pounds is 8.333333333333 foot pounds. As for the gasket don't know
     
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    Sounds like something I would do!

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    ok... enlighten me... what is helicoil, &amp; how do you use it???

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    Sorry, can't help with #1, but 12 is the multiple for inch to foot conversions and back. I'd suggest that you get an inch/pound torque wrench for settings as low as that. Torque wrenches are generally only designed to give complete accuarcy in the middle portion of the range. The upper and lower limits are more likely to be inaccurate.

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  6. Pugsley

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    ok rock god, I men pugsley... LOL thanks for the link...

    is this something that I could pick up at most auto parts stores???

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    A helicoil is a wonderful invention that has allowed those of us that use "german torque" on occasion to repair the threaded hole that we just stripped out. It's basicly just a steel coil shaped to mimic the threads of whatever size you need. You just have to drill out the hole a bit larger, run a tap into the hole, screw in the helicoil and break off the tab and it's pretty much locked in place. They can end up being stronger than the original threads, especially on aluminum and I highly reccomend them.

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    Yeah - you can get them at about any auto parts or good hardware stores. You may now bask in my glory[​IMG]

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    LOL... I'm basking, I'm basking... [​IMG] LOL

    any recommendations on that gasket???

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    I'd still give it a dose of Gasgacinch or whatever sealer you prefer - I've never used one like it, but have been told they seal really well. I'd add the sealer just to err on the side of safety.

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    just retap and put in a bigger screw. that's what i did to one of my head bolts. aahh, now i know why my friends think i am out of it :-)

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    A helicoil is the most wonderful thing next to a welder where you can fill the broken hole and redrill it and retap it
     
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    thanks pugs...

    man I think I've got as much info from you on this project as anybody (except captcrunch... lot's of PM's and MSN messenger sessions...)... I appreciate you help.

    anyway I'm still waiting for my heads to arrive, and I don't get those until monday so I got plenty of time to get this gasket on and the holes tapped / helicoiled...

    man tomorrow I'm gonna clean out the engine compartment so it'll be clean, and get that oil pan on, and then the bottum end will be done &amp; the compartment will be ready for install... (only took me a little over a week... been waiting for too many parts [​IMG]) LOL

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    Glad to help[​IMG]! Makes me feel useful[​IMG]

    I know the "waiting for parts" feeling - I've been waiting for my new drag link for the better part of 2 weeks, and a rim for the Cherokee for over a month.

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    ok guys... man got one of those helicoil kits, and man those things are awesome!!! definately something I'm sure will come in handy in the future!

    as far as the gasket is concerned I did end up using some gasket sealer... (and I got the torquing correct this time, but I'm still going to by a smaller - more accurate - torque wrench for the lighter weights. I wouldn't be as concerned about it, but somebody (no not me this time) left my torque wrench with tension on it over night, and I think that spring isn't as accurate for lower settings... [​IMG]

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