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ok to mount recovery hook here?

Discussion in 'The Garage' started by BranndonC, Dec 9, 2003.

  1. BranndonC

    BranndonC 3/4 ton status

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    if i put a piece of 1/2 inch plate above it and bolt it in?
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    when you say above it do you mean use the plate as a washer above the frame? or use the plate as a spacer?
     
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    yup /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif
     
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    BranndonC 3/4 ton status

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    above the frame, kinda as a strengthener/washer
     
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    it would be OK, but I would advise against it.

    I've seen those thing sheer off and shoot out like a bullet. IMHO, a "true" off road bumper is in order in the front. I don't want to be hanging for my life on a strap thinking "I hope that hook holds!"

    JM2C
     
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    BranndonC 3/4 ton status

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    thanks zakk, i plan on the 4x4iron hybrid bumper or something comparible. but untill then, i want some hooks on the front and that was the most logical place i found to mount it.
     
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    That's what I did, one on each frame horn. I ended up putting a 1/4" plate on each side of the frame instead of just using one 1/2" plate, made it a ton stronger. I am not afraid of it ripping out because I have pulled some heavy sh!t with it, straps and cables break before the hooks go. /forums/images/graemlins/truck.gif
     
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    i dont think it'll be a problem. a beefy bumper that is attached to the frame in more than 2 spots is always the best way to go, but until you have ur kick azz bumper etc, the hooks/horns approach oughta work for ya.

    j
     
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    make sure you have at least grade 8 or higher bolts
     
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    Aren't those hooks only rated at 10,000 pounds? I'd be concerned about that thing snapping and becoming a projectile. /forums/images/graemlins/eek.gif The factory hooks are considerably beefier. /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif
     
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    make sure you have at least grade 8 or higher bolts

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    Also, make sure you have a fat wallett and a good lawyer. Cause you may be getting booked for manslaughter.
     
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    Also, make sure you have a fat wallett and a good lawyer. Cause you may be getting booked for manslaughter.

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    please list all the legal cases that involve injury claims related to these particular types of hooks.

    yeah, thats what a i thought.

    j
     
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    Aren't those hooks only rated at 10,000 pounds? I'd be concerned about that thing snapping and becoming a projectile. /forums/images/graemlins/eek.gif The factory hooks are considerably beefier. /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif

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    so 10k isnt enough? it is mainly sand dunes and hills i'd be doing, no mud
     
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    One thing is correct - this type of tow hook should be mounted where the bolts are in line with the towing plane. Meaning, just as you have it. Be sure to plate the frame as you mentioned.

    I ripped my factory tow hook out of the frame, with only a thread holding on. Luckily my truck was freed on the very pull that broke the tow hook mounts.

    GM dropped the ball on the factory tow hook mounting, expecially with the 81 up K5's. They had the "S shaped" tow hook mounting where my 78 had the straight through mounting. But, the way the factory mounted my tow hooks, was straight up and down. Meaning, the bottom bolt ripped through the frame, leaving only the top bolt and torn frame intact. /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif
     
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    Also, make sure you have a fat wallett and a good lawyer. Cause you may be getting booked for manslaughter.

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    please list all the legal cases that involve injury claims related to these particular types of hooks.

    yeah, thats what a i thought.

    j


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    Not talking about the quality of the hooks. I am talking about the method of installation of said hooks. So STFU. /forums/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif
     
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    [ QUOTE ]
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    Also, make sure you have a fat wallett and a good lawyer. Cause you may be getting booked for manslaughter.

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    please list all the legal cases that involve injury claims related to these particular types of hooks.

    yeah, thats what a i thought.

    j


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    Not talking about the quality of the hooks. I am talking about the method of installation of said hooks. So STFU. /forums/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif

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    HIGHLY NOT RECOMENDED!

    but, the previos owner of my truck had those type hooks installed with just one bolt on the frame and not plating /forums/images/graemlins/eek.gif

    i watched him do a good 10 or 15 5-10' slack jerks in the mud and they didn't pop out. i only watched him wheel once and he had that truck over a year, so i don't think with 2 bolts you'll be in bad shape at all. mine are mounted with 2 bolts to the frame now, no plate, but not that ya'll mention it i think i'll plate it up before i wheel her again.
     
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    Not talking about the quality of the hooks. I am talking about the method of installation of said hooks.

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    dont see anything out of the ordinary about his choice of installation location or method of attachment. Lawsuits are always a concern, but honestly, most of our hardcore wheelers run bumpers they bent/welded up themselves which (no matter how beefy) if they fail and someone is injured there is a MUCH better chance of a lawsuit (unless you're a certified welder and have an engineering degree).

    in any case, the guy is buying something billed as a tow hook and is attaching it to the frame of his vehicle... if flat out murderers can lay the blame on gun manufacturers, SURELY a person brought to court where a tow hook was to blame he could pin it on the company that produced them. this is prolly why we don't see lawsuits like you're talking about much, if at all. Still waiting to see some evidence of such a thing...

    j

    ps: i guess you missed the day in 7th grade English class where they tell you that resorting to insults = admitting defeat in an argument. /forums/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif
     
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    Not talking about the quality of the hooks. I am talking about the method of installation of said hooks.

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    dont see anything out of the ordinary about his choice of installation location or method of attachment. Lawsuits are always a concern, but honestly, most of our hardcore wheelers run bumpers they bent/welded up themselves which (no matter how beefy) if they fail and someone is injured there is a MUCH better chance of a lawsuit (unless you're a certified welder and have an engineering degree).

    in any case, the guy is buying something billed as a tow hook and is attaching it to the frame of his vehicle... if flat out murderers can lay the blame on gun manufacturers, SURELY a person brought to court where a tow hook was to blame he could pin it on the company that produced them. this is prolly why we don't see lawsuits like you're talking about much, if at all. Still waiting to see some evidence of such a thing...

    j

    ps: i guess you missed the day in 7th grade English class where they tell you that resorting to insults = admitting defeat in an argument. /forums/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif

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    Where was the insult?
     
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    the way you and i and most other folks with heavy, powerful trucks unstick people is to slowly get all the slack out of the rope then gently pull them out of there holes. i have never, ever done a "jerk" type recovery because i have never needed to. i think that hook will be fine right where you have it. but thats just me. if you had to pull me out with that hook, i would feel safe
     
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    i might even be able to weld in the 1/4 inch plate also /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif
     

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